Chapter 9 Chapter Eight Immediate Enlightenment and Its Obstacles

Bombay, India, 1 March 1973 first question: You said that either a person sees the world, or a person sees Brahman, and it is impossible to gradually perceive Brahman, but in experience, we feel that when we become more and more peaceful, we feel more and more divine. The sense of being will gradually become clearer and clearer, and if real experience is never gradual but immediate, then what is this gradual growth and clarity? This is a very old question: "Is enlightenment immediate or gradual?" There are many things to understand, there is a tradition that enlightenment is gradual, everything can be divided into many levels, everything can Divided into steps, like anything else, knowledge can be divided, you can become wiser and wiser, you can become more enlightened, this is widely accepted because the human mind cannot conceive Anything immediate, the mind wants to divide, to analyze, the mind is a divider, the hierarchy can be understood by the mind, but the immediate is not psychological, it is beyond the mind.

If I tell you that you are ignorant and you gradually become wiser, that is understandable, you can understand it, if I tell you, "No, there is no progressive growth, you are either ignorant or enlightened, that leap It is immediate." Then the question of "how to become enlightened" arises, if it is not gradual then there cannot be progress, if there are no levels of growth then you cannot progress, you cannot progress.Where to start?In a burst, the beginning and the end are together, there is no gap between the beginning and the end, so where to start?That beginning is the end.

It becomes a riddle for the mind, a koan, but instant enlightenment seems impossible, not that it is impossible, but the mind cannot imagine it.Remember, how can the mind imagine enlightenment?It can't do it. The statement that "the explosion within is gradual growth" is widely accepted, and even many enlightened people concede to your minds, saying, "Yes, there is gradual growth." There is not gradual growth, it is they Saying it by accepting your attitude and the way you perceive, they have a deep compassion for you, they know that if you start thinking that it is incremental, that the beginning is good, but there will be no incremental growth, however, If you start, if you keep seeking, one day the immediate thing will happen to you.But if it is said that enlightenment can only be immediate and not gradual growth, then you will not even start and it will never happen, there are many enlightened people who say enlightenment is gradual, they just want to To help you, to convince you to start.

Something is possible through gradual processes, but enlightenment cannot be, enlightenment cannot be, something else is possible, but those other things can become helpful, for example, if you want Make water evaporate, then you heat it and it evaporates, at a certain point, at a hundred degrees, evaporation will happen -- instantly!There is no gradual growth between water and steam, you cannot divide, you cannot say that this water is some steam and some water, or it is water, or it is steam, and suddenly the water jumps into state of vapor.It's a leap, not a gradual growth, but by heating you gradually give heat to the water, you help it get to a hundred degrees, to the boiling point, it's a natural growth, until the boiling point, the water will be It gets hotter and grows, then evaporation happens instantly.

So there are many masters, who are very intelligent and compassionate, and they use the language of the human mind, which can be understood, and they tell you, "Yes, there is gradual growth." This statement gives you courage, gives you confidence , gives you hope, and gives you the possibility that it can happen.You cannot reach it in an immediate burst, but gradually, step by step, with your limitations, with your frailties, you can also grow to reach it, it may take many lifetimes, but there is still hope, You will become hot with all your efforts. The second thing to remember: even hot water is still water, so even if your mind becomes clearer, your perception becomes purer, you become more moral, more centered, you are still a human being, and Not a buddha, you are still unenlightened, you become more peaceful, more serene, more composed, you feel a deep bliss, but you are still a human being, and your feeling is actually negative, not positive.

You feel calm because you are less tense, and you feel joy because you are less attached to your pain.You don't create pain, you feel calm, not that you have achieved that "oneness", just that now you are less divided.Remember: your growth is negative.You are just hot water, any moment you can reach boiling point, when it happens, you will not feel calm, you will not even feel bliss, you will not feel serenity, because these attributes are at their "opposite extremes" is relative.When you are tense you can feel peace, when you feel noise you can feel peace, when you are split, fragmented, you can feel oneness, when you are suffering, in In the midst of extreme pain, you can feel joy.

That's why Buddha is silent, because words cannot express what is beyond polarity, he cannot say, "Now I am full of joy." Because even this feeling of "Now I am full of joy" has to have pain as a background. possible.You can feel health only when there is a background of sickness and disease, and you can feel life only when there is a background of death.Buddha cannot say, "Now I am immortal." Because death has completely disappeared.Therefore, immortality cannot be felt. How can you feel joy if pain is completely gone?How can you feel peace if the noise and pain are totally absent?They cannot be felt without the opposite extreme; how can you feel light if darkness disappears completely, that is impossible.

Buddha cannot say, "I have become light!" He cannot say, "Now I am full of light." If he said that, we will say, he has not become Buddha, he cannot say such a thing .If you want to feel light, darkness must exist; if you want to feel immortality, death must exist; you cannot avoid the opposite.This is a basic need for any experience to exist.So, what was Buddha's experience?Whatever we know is not that, it is neither negative nor positive; neither this nor that; whatever can be expressed is not that. That's why Lao Tzu insists so much that truth is unspeakable, the moment you say it, you have falsified it, it is no longer true.Truth cannot be spoken because it cannot be divided into opposite poles. Language has meaning only when opposite poles are possible, otherwise language becomes meaningless. If there is no opposite, language loses meaning. .

So there is a tradition that says enlightenment is gradual, but that tradition is not the real truth, it is a half-truth, which is spoken to sympathize with the human mind.Enlightenment is immediate, it cannot come any other way, it is a leap!It is not continuous with your past!Try to understand: if something is gradual, the past remains in it; if something is gradual, then there is a continuum without gaps; if going from ignorance to knowledge is a gradual growth , well, ignorance cannot disappear completely, it will remain, it will continue, because there is no discontinuity, no gap, so that ignorance may become more refined, that ignorance may become more knowledgeable, that ignorance It may look smart, but it still exists, then it will be more refined, of course, the more refined it is, the more dangerous it is, when it is more knowledgeable, it is more cunning, more capable of deceiving self-realization and ignorance is completely separate, is totally discontinuous, is a leap in which the past dissolves completely, the old has gone, it has ceased to exist, and the new has not yet appeared, the new that was not there before .

The Buddha is said to have said, "I am no longer what I was after. I am what I am that never existed before." This statement sounds absurd and illogical, but it is, and it is. !Buddha said, "I am not the one who was seeking before, I am not the one who is seeking enlightenment, I am not the one who is ignorant, the old one is completely dead, I am new, I never existed in that There is a gap in the old man, the old dies and the new is born." It is difficult for the mind to conceive this. How can you conceive it?How can you conceive a gap?Something must go on, how is it possible to say that something disappears completely and something new appears?Twenty years ago this was absurd to the logical mind, it was absurd to the scientific mind, but now, to science, it is no longer absurd, and now they say that in the depths of the atom electrons appear and disappear, they jump, the electron jumps from one point to another, and in between, it doesn't exist, it appears at point A, disappears and reappears at point B, at In that gap, it is not there, it is not there, it becomes totally non-existent.

If so, it means that non-existence is also a kind of existence, which is difficult to conceive, but it is so: non-existence is also a kind of existence, as if something changes from visible to invisible, from form to formlessness . When Gautama Siddhartha—the one who disappeared and became Buddha—was pursuing, he was a visible form; when enlightenment happened, that form completely dissolved and became invisible, and at a certain moment A void, in that void there is no one, and out of that void a new form arises, and this new form is the Buddha.Because the body continues in the same way, we think there is a continuum, but the inner real being has completely changed; because the body continues in the same way, we say "Gautama Buddha" - the Siddhartha"—now has become "Enlightened Gotama", he has become a Buddha, and the Buddha himself said: "I am not the one who was pursuing before, I am a completely different person." The mind is very It is difficult to conceive this. There are many things which are difficult for the mind, but they cannot be rejected just because they are difficult for the mind. The mind has to give in to the impossible which it cannot understand.Sex cannot give way to mind, mind has to give way to sex.This is one of the most fundamental truths inherent: Enlightenment is a discontinuous phenomenon.The old just disappears and the new is born. There is another tradition, a later tradition, and in that tradition, they have always insisted that enlightenment is immediate -- not gradual, but the people who belong to that tradition are very few, they cling to the truth, but their number must be very Less, because if enlightenment is immediate, then you cannot generate many followers, you cannot understand it, how to follow it?It's shocking to the fabric of logic, and it seems absurd, impossible, but remember one thing: whether of matter or of the mind, you're going to have to meet a lot of superficial minds. unimaginable things, and then you go into deeper realms. Tertullian - one of the greatest Christian mystics - once said, "I believe in God because God is the greatest absurdity; I believe in God because the mind cannot believe in God." Believe in God Impossible: no proof, no argument, no logic can help us believe in God, everything is against it, against its existence, but Tertullian says: "That's why I believe, because only by By trying to believe a nonsense, I was able to get that out of my head." This is beautiful, if you want to get out of your mind, you will need something that your mind cannot conceive.If your mind can imagine it, it absorbs it into its own system, then you cannot go beyond your mind, so every religion sticks to a certain point of absurdity, there is no religion without some kind of absurdity It can exist, and the existence of absurdity is only a basis in religion.You can either turn back from the absurdity and say, "I can't believe it, so I'm going to go away." Then you remain yourself, or you can jump: you turn away from your mind.Enlightenment cannot happen unless your mind is killed. Your mind is the problem, your logic is the problem, your arguments are the problem, they exist on the surface, they look real, but they are deceiving, they are not real, for example, look at the mind How the structure works, the mind divides everything into two parts, but in fact things are indivisible, existence is indivisible, you cannot divide it, yet the mind keeps dividing it, it says 'this' is life,' The "is death, but what is the real truth?The real truth is that both are the same.In this very moment you are both alive and dead, you are living and dying, you are both life and death.The mind divides, it says, "this" is death, "that" is life, it not only divides, it says that the two are opposites, the enemy, and it says that death tries to destroy life, "death tries To destroy life" seems all right, but if you go deeper, deeper than the mind, then death is not trying to destroy life!You cannot exist without death. Death helps you to exist. It helps you to exist every moment. If for a single moment death stops working, you will die. Every moment death discards many parts of you that have become useless.There are many cells that die, they are removed by death, and when they are removed, new ones are born.You are growing: something is always dying and something is always living, every moment there is life and death, both are working.Linguistically, I have to call both of them "two", but they are not "two"!They are two sides of a phenomenon. Birth and death are one. "Birth and death" is a process, but the mind can divide. The division seems to be no problem for us, but the division is false. You say this is light and that is darkness, you divide, but where does the darkness begin and where does the light end?Can you divide them?You cannot divide them, in fact, black and white are two ends of a long gray, and that gray is life.Black appears at one end and white at the other, but the real being is gray, and in that gray itself contains both. The mind divides so that after division everything looks well-defined.Life is very chaotic, that's why life is a mystery, that's why the mind cannot understand life.It helps to create clear-cut ideas that you can think about easily and conveniently, but then you miss the reality of life. Life is a mystery and the mind unravels the mystery of everything. , then what you get are some dead pieces, not the whole. With the mind you will not be able to conceive how enlightenment is immediate, it will not be able to conceive how you will disappear, or how something new will appear there that you never knew before, don't try to come through the mind Know, but practice something that keeps you hot, try to get some fire that keeps you hot, and then, suddenly, one day, you'll know that old Gone, the water is no more, it is a new phenomenon, you have evaporated, everything has changed completely. Water always flows downwards, however after evaporation, that new phenomenon is upwards, the whole law is changed, Newton's law of gravity says that the earth attracts everything downwards, but the law of gravity is just a law , there is another law, which you may not have heard, because science has not yet discovered it, but yoga and tantra have known it for many centuries, they call it "lifting", gravity is Pull down, and "lift up" means pull up. The story of how gravity was discovered is well known, Newton sat under an apple tree and an apple fell, and because of this, he began to think that something was pulling the apple down, and Tantra And yoga is asking: "How did the apple grow upwards in the first place? How did it grow upwards?" This must first be explained: How did the apple reach that upward position?How do trees grow upwards?The apple was not there, it was hidden in the seed, and then it went through the whole journey to reach the upper position, only then it was able to fall, so gravity is the second law, "lift up" It's the first law, there's something pulling the apple up, what's that? In everyday life, we easily know about gravity because we are all pulled down.Water flows downwards, it is governed by the law of gravity, when it evaporates, suddenly that law evaporates, so it is governed by the "law of ascension" Dominated, it goes up. Ignorance is governed by the law of gravity, you always go down, no matter what you do, you have to go down, in every way, you have to go down, and struggle alone is not going to be much Helps, unless you get into a different law - the law of "lifting up".That's what samadhi is, it's the door of "lifting up," and once you evaporate, once you're no longer water, everything changes.It doesn't mean that you can control it, and you don't need to control it at all. In this way, you won't go down. Just as it was impossible to go up before, it is impossible to go down now. It's not that Buddha is going to be non-violent, he can't be non-violent, it's not that he's trying to be loving, he can't be non-violent, he has to be loving, that's not a choice, it's not an effort , not any artificially cultivated virtue, that's just saying now it's a law: he ascends.Hate is governed by the law of gravity, love is governed by the law of "lifting up". This immediate transformation does not mean that you do nothing and just wait for the immediate transformation, if that is the case it will never come and that is the difficulty.When I say, or someone else says: Enlightenment is immediate, we think that if it is immediate then there is nothing to do.We just have to wait, and when it happens, it happens, so what can a person do?If it's gradual, then you can do some work. But I will tell you, it is not gradual, and you can do some things, you have to do some things, but those things will not lead you to enlightenment, those things will lead you to near the phenomenon of enlightenment, those things It will open you to the phenomenon of enlightenment so that it can happen, so enlightenment cannot be a result of your effort, it is not a result of your effort.Through hard work, you can only become a chance to reach the higher "ascending" law, through hard work, you will be open to enlightenment, but it does not mean that through hard work, you will become enlightened.You become open, you become non-resistive, you become cooperative and the higher law operates, and once you become cooperative and non-resisting, the higher law operates.Your effort will make you back down, your effort will make you more receptive. It's like: you're sitting in your room with the door closed, the sun is outside, and you're in the dark, and you can't do anything to bring the sunlight in, but as soon as you open the door, the sunlight can enter your room.You cannot bring the sunlight in, but you can keep it out, and if you open the door, the sunlight can enter your room.You cannot bring the sunlight in, but you can keep it out. If you open the door, the sunlight will come in, the light waves will come in, the light will enter the room. It's not that you really bring the sunlight in, you just remove the block and the light comes in by itself.Know it deeply: you cannot do anything to achieve enlightenment, but you are doing many things to prevent it, so that it cannot reach you.You create a lot of obstacles.So you can only do something negatively, you can throw away the barriers, you can open the door, and when the door opens, the light comes in, and the light will touch you and change you. All effort in this sense is destroying obstacles, not attaining enlightenment.All effort is negative, it is like medicine.Medicine cannot give you health, it can only destroy your disease. Once the disease is not there, health occurs and you are open to health.If disease is there, health cannot happen. That's why neither eastern nor western medicine has been able to define what health is, they can define every disease very clearly, they know thousands of diseases, and those diseases are all defined, but they cannot To define what health is, the most they can say is: When there is no disease, you are healthy.But what is health?Health is something beyond the mind, something that exists: you can have it, you can feel it, but you cannot define it. You already know health, can you define it?What is it?When you try to define it, you will have to refer to disease, you will have to say something about disease, you will have to say, "The absence of disease is health." This is absurd, you need to define health in terms of disease ?Disease has its definite nature, health has its own definite nature, but health is not so definite because it is infinite.You can feel it, you know health is there when it is there, but what is it?Disease can be cured and destroyed.When the barrier is broken, the light comes in, and the phenomenon of enlightenment is similar, it is spiritual health, the mind is a spiritual disease and meditation is nothing but medicine. Buddha is said to have said, "I am a medicine giver, a doctor, I am not a teacher, I am not here to give you dogma, I know a certain medicine that will cure your diseases. Don't ask about health, Take the medicine, destroy the disease, and you will know what health is, don't ask about health." Buddha said: "I am not a metaphysician, I am not a philosopher, I am about what is God, what is the soul, alone What is, what is Liberation, what is Nirvana, no interest, I am not interested at all! I am only interested in what the disease is and how it can be cured, I am a medicine giver." His approach is completely scientific , he made a diagnosis of human dilemmas and diseases, and his approach was absolutely correct. Destroy the barrier, what is the barrier?Thought is the basic obstacle.When you think, a barrier of thought is created, a wall of thought is created between you and what is, and thought is denser than any wall of stone, thought has many layers, and you cannot See through them and see what is real, you keep thinking what is real, you keep imagining what is real, and what is real is waiting for you here and now, if you give it the chance , it happens to you, you go on thinking about what is real, but if you don't know, how can you think? You cannot think about what you do not know, you can only think about what you already know, thinking is repetitive, overlapping, it never reaches anything new and unknown, through thinking you never touch The unknown, you can only touch the known, and that is meaningless because you already know it.You can go on feeling it over and over again, you may still enjoy the feeling, but nothing new will come out of it. Stop thinking, dissolve thinking, then the barrier is broken, then your door is opened, and the light can come in, and once the light comes in, you know that the old is no more, so you Just know that you are that totally new, it was never there, you never knew it, but maybe you could even say it's the "oldest" because it's always been there, you just didn't know it. You can use two expressions, they mean the same thing, you can call it "the oldest", which is the Brahman that has always been; you can say that you have been missing it, or, you can say it is What's new, it's only happening now, it never existed before, and that's right, because it's new to you, and if you want to talk about truth, you're going to have to use paradoxical expressions. The Upanishad says, "This is the new and the old; this is the oldest and the latest; this is both the far and the near." But then language becomes Paradoxical, contradictory. You ask me, "If real experience is never gradual but immediate, then what is this gradual growth and clarity?" This clarity is of the mind, this clarity is of the reduction of disease, this clarity is of obstacle If one obstacle falls, your burden becomes lighter, and your eyes are less clouded, and if another obstacle falls, your burden becomes lighter again, and your eyes become clearer again. , but this clarity does not belong to enlightenment, this clarity is only the reduction of disease, not health.When all the obstacles disappear and your mind disappears with those obstacles, then you cannot say, "Now my mind is clear." Because it is no longer there, you can only say, "Now there is no mind." When there is no mind, then that clarity belongs to enlightenment, then that clarity belongs to enlightenment!That is absolutely different, another dimension opens up, but you have to experience clarity of mind, always remember that no matter how clear your mind becomes, it is still a blockage, no matter how transparent your mind becomes, Even if it becomes a clear glass and you can see the other side, it's still a barrier and you're going to have to break it completely.So sometimes when a person is meditating, he will become more and more clear, his sanity will become clearer and quieter, and tranquility will be felt, then one will be attached to meditation, thinking that everything is being It is achieved, the great masters have been emphasizing that one day you will have to drop even your meditation. I am going to tell you a story, a Zen story, Bokuju was meditating, meditating very deeply, meditating with his whole heart, his master would come every day and he would just go back every day with a smile , Bukeyou felt disturbed, the master didn’t say anything, he just came, looked at him, smiled and went back, but Bukeyou felt very good in meditation, his meditation was deepening every day , he needed someone to compliment him, and he waited for the Master to pat him on the shoulder and say, "Okay, Bukeyu, you've done a good job." But the Master just laughed, and that laughter sounded like an insult, It was as if Bukyo was not improving, but in fact he was improving, and when he improved more, the laughter became more and more insulting, so that it was no longer possible to bear it. One day the Master came, and Bu Keyou felt completely peaceful, the only tranquility his mind could have. There was no noise, no thought at all, his mind was completely transparent, and he could not feel any obstacles. He was full of subtle, deep emotions. Happiness, bliss overflowing, even in ecstasy, so he thought, "Now my master will not laugh, now the moment has come and he will tell me: Bukhyu, you have become enlightened. " That day the Master came and took a brick in his hand, and he started rubbing that brick towards the rock that Booker was sitting on, and he was very peaceful, but the rubbing of the brick and the stone made noise, and he became disturbed, and finally he Couldn't stand it, so he opened his eyes and asked the master, "What are you doing?" The master replied, "I'm trying to turn this brick into a mirror. A mirror." Bukeyou said: "You are too stupid to do this, how can this brick become a mirror, no matter how hard you grind it, it will not become a mirror." The master smiled and said, "Then what are you doing? This mind can never become enlightened, and you are still grinding it. You are polishing it, and you feel good. When I laugh at you, you feel hurt." Excuse me." Suddenly, when the master threw away that brick, Bukhyu became aware, when the master threw away that brick, he suddenly felt that the master was right, and his mind was broken. From that day on, There is no mind, no meditation, he becomes enlightened. The master told him: "Now you can go anywhere and teach them, first teach them meditation, then teach them non-meditation, first teach them how to clear the mind, because only a very clear mind can understand: even This very clear mind is also an obstacle; only a very deep meditative mind can understand: even meditation has to be dropped." Now you cannot understand.Krishnamurti keeps saying that there is no need for any meditation, and he is right, but he is telling the wrong person that he is right, that there is no need for any meditation, but he is wrong because he is not thinking about the obedient person.Those who cannot even understand what meditation is, how can they understand that there is no need for any meditation?It will be bad for them because they will cling to that concept and they will feel that concept is so good that they don't need any meditation and they will feel, "We are already enlightened." Listening to Krishnamurti, There are many people who will feel that there is no need to meditate, and they will think that those who meditate are stupid. They could have wasted their entire lives on this notion, and it's true.The point will come where meditation has to be dropped, the point will come when meditation becomes an obstacle, but you have to wait for that point to come, you cannot drop something that you don't have.Krishnamurti says, "No need to meditate, don't meditate." But you have never meditated, how can you say, "Don't meditate"? A rich man can throw away his wealth, but a poor man cannot, because to throw away you first need something to throw away.If you meditate, one day you will be able to renounce it, and that is the last renunciation, the greatest.Wealth can be dropped, that is easy; the family can be dropped, that is not difficult; the whole world can be dropped, because everything is external, external, external.The last thing is meditation, it is the innermost wealth, when you drop it, you drop yourself, then there is no self, not even a "meditation self", no great meditator exists, even if that The image is also broken, then you go into nothingness, only in this nothingness can there be discontinuity!The old has disappeared and the new has happened. Through meditation you have become available. Anything that is felt through meditation, don't think that is enlightenment, these are just glimpses of disease reduction, disease disappearing, you feel good, disease is reduced, so you feel healthier, real health has not come yet, But you're healthier than you were, and being healthier is good. second question: You say that life exists in opposite poles, like love and hate; attraction and repulsion; virtue and vice, etc., but what happens to these opposite poles when one enters into that witnessing consciousness? Don't ask, wait for that to happen, wait for that to happen.You can ask and some kind of answer can be given to you, but that answer cannot become a real answer for you.Never jump ahead, don't ask what happens when a person dies?你将必须经历过它，除非你死，否则你无法知道它，任何被说出来的可以基于信任而被相信，但那是没有意义的。 宁可问：如何去死，好让你能够知道会发生什么。没有任何其他人能够为你死，没有任何其他人的经验能够成为你的经验，你将必须去死，别人不能够为你经验死亡，它必须是你自己的经验。你所问的问题也是类似的情形，当两极消失之后会怎么样？就某方面而言，没有什么事会发生，"发生"会溶解，因为所有的发生都是极性的，当爱和恨两者都溶解（它们真的会溶解），那个时候会怎么样？当你爱的时候，你也恨，你恨那个你所爱的同一个人，恨只是隐藏起来的，当恨上升，爱就下降。 耶稣说："爱你的敌人。"非我说你无法不爱你的敌人，你的确爱你的敌人，你如此地恨他们，如果没有爱，那是不可能的，爱只是钱币的另一面，爱结束而恨开始的那个分界点在哪里？只是灰色的一片（不是黑的也不是白的）。你什么时候恨某人而什么时候爱？你能够划分它吗？你爱和恨同一个人，任何片刻，恨能够变成爱，而爱能够变成恨，这是头脑的两极，头脑就是这样在运作的，不要为它担心，如果你知道，你将永远不会担心；如果你爱某人，你知道恨将会存在；如果某人爱你，你将可以预期到两者——爱和恨。 但是在一个像佛一般的意识里，当爱和恨两者都消失，在那种情况下会怎么样？很难表达会怎么样，但是任何在佛周围被感觉到的比较像是没有恨的爱，它在佛陀周围被感觉到，而不是佛陀感觉如此。佛陀无法感觉到爱。因为他无法感觉到恨，所以他无法感觉到爱，但是在他周围的每一个人都感觉到一个深深的爱在流动着，我们可以将它形容为没有恨的爱，那个品质是不一样的。 对于你的爱而言，恨不可避免地一定会存在，它会给爱染色，它改变了爱的品质，恨给爱热情、给爱力量，它给予一个强度、一个汇集的品质、一个集中，而佛的爱变成一个分散的现象，强度并不存在，它并不能够燃烧你，它只能够温暖你，它不是一把火，它只是一道发热的光，它不是一个火焰，它就好像早晨的光，当太阳还没有升起而夜晚已经消失，它就像那个时候的光，它就是夜晚和白天之间那个间隔的片刻，它是没有任何火，也没有任何火焰的光，我们将它感觉成爱，感觉成最纯的爱，因为那是一个没有恨的爱，即使要去感觉这一类型的爱，你也必须是一个非常深入静心的头脑，你需要一个能够静心的头脑，否则一个这么细腻的、扩散的现象将不会被感觉到，你必须具有非常深刻的敏感度。 你只能够感觉到粗糙的爱，而那个粗糙是恨所给予的，如果某人只是爱你而没有任何恨，那么你将很难感觉到他的爱。你必须成长而变得更透明、更细腻、更敏感，你必须变成一个好像非常敏感的乐器，唯有如此，那个和风有时候才会吹到你身上，而那个和风是那么地非暴力，它将不会打击你，它只是一支纤细的火把，如果你非常非常地觉知，你就能够感觉到它，否则你将会错过它。 但这是我们在佛周围的感觉，而不是佛本身的感觉，佛不能够感觉爱或恨，真的，那个相反的两极已经消失，而只有简单的"在"被留下来。佛是一个"在"，而不是一个心情；你是心情，而不是一个"在"，有时候你恨——一种心情；有时候你爱——另一种心情；有时候你生气——又是另一种心情；有时候你贪婪——又是另一种心情；你是很多种心情！你从来不是一个纯粹的"在"，而你的意识继续被你的心情所修饰，每一种心情都变成主人，它修饰了意识，它使意识残缺，它改变意识，使它染色、使它变形。 佛是没有心情的，恨已经消失了、爱已经消失了、愤怒已经消失了、贪婪已经消失了，而且非贪婪和非愤怒也已经消失，它们都消失了！它们两者都消失了，他只是一个单纯的"在"，如果你是敏感的，你将会感觉到爱从他身上流露出来，你将会感觉到慈悲，如果你不敏感、如果你是粗糙的、如果你的静心尚未发展，你将根本不会感觉到它。如果佛在你们之中移动，你们甚至不会觉知到某种现象在经过，某种稀有的、好几个世纪才有一次的现象在经过，你将不会觉察到！ 或者如果你是非常粗糙的、反静心的，你甚至会被他的"在"所激怒，因为他的"在"是微妙的，你甚至会因为他的"在"而变成暴力的，他的"在"或许会扰乱你。如果你是非常粗糙的、反静心的，你将会变成佛的敌人，而他将不会怎么样。如果你是敞开的、敏感的，你将会变成一个爱人，而他将不会做什么，记住这一点。当你变成一个敌人，那是因为你的缘故；当你变成一个朋友，那也是因为你的缘故。佛是一个单纯的"在"，他是随时可取用的，如果你变成一个敌人而掉头就走，你将错过某种要等待好几世才会再来的机会。 佛陀过世的那一天阿南达在哭，佛陀在早上的时候说："今天是我最后一天，这个身体即将结束。"阿南达就在旁边，他是佛陀第一个告诉他的，佛陀对他说："这是我的最后一天，所以，去告诉每一个人说，如果他们必须问一些事情，他们可以问。"阿南达开始哭泣，佛陀说："你为什么要哭？难道是为了这个身体？我一直在教导、教导、又教导说这个身体是假的，它已经死了，或者是你为我的死在哭泣吗？不要哭泣，因为我在四十年前就死了，我在成道的那一天就死了，所以现在只是这个身体在消失，不要哭泣。" 阿南达说了一件非常美的事，他说："我不是在为你或为你的身体而哭，我是在为我自己哭，我还没有成道，而要再等下一个佛出现，还不知道要多少世？而我或许不能够再认出你。" 除非你成道，否则你清晰的头脑在任何片刻都可能会被云遮住，在你成道之前，你会一次又一次地退回来，没有一样东西是确定的，所以阿南达说："我是在为我自己哭泣，我还没有成道，还没有达到目标，而你就要进入空无。"有很多人，甚至连佛陀自己的父亲也不能认出他的儿子已经不再是他的儿子，有某种东西已经发生在这个身体上，那是非常少发生的。黑暗已经消失，而永恒的光正在那里燃烧，但是他无法认出它，有很多人反对他，有很多人要杀他，但是这一切都依你而定，你是否变成一个朋友、一个爱人，或是一个敌人，那都依你而定、依你的敏感度而定、依你的头脑而定、依你的头脑如何感觉而定。 然而一个佛什么事都没做，他只是一个"在"，只是藉着他的在，就有很多事会在他的周围发生，那些能够感觉到爱的人，他们会觉得他深深地爱着他们，当你能够感觉得越深，你将更能够感觉到他对你的爱也在加深，如果你能够变成一个真正的爱人，你将会感觉到佛陀对你是一个爱人。如果你变成一个敌人，而你感觉到恨，你将会觉得佛陀是一个敌人，而你将会觉得他必须被杀死、被摧毁，他依你而定，佛是一个"无为者"，他只是存在，他就在那里，所以会发生什么是很难说的，因为任何我们所说的都是一个心情，如果我们说他变成一个爱人，他有一个伟大的爱，那是假的，那只是我们的感觉。 耶稣的跟随者感觉到它只是爱，而耶稣的敌人认为它必须被钉死在十字架上，所以它依你而定，它依你怎么样看它而定，它依你有多少能力来接受它而定，依你有多敞开而定，但是从一个成道的人这边来看是没有什么可以说的，他只能够说现在"他是"，什么事都不必做，他是——只是一个"在"、一个存在。 Third question: 你说，当一个人完全在当下这个片刻，而头脑里面没有任何思想，那么他就是一个佛的头脑，但是即使当我里面没有思想，而就在这个片刻，全神贯注地，没有过去或未来，我并没有感觉到佛的本性，请你解释：在这个没有思想的觉知里，佛的头脑什么时候才会被显示出来？ 第一件事情：如果你觉知到在你的头脑里面没有思想，那就是有思想。即使这也是一个思想，说现在在你里面没有思想，这也是一个思想，这个思想是最后一个思想，让它也消失。你为什么在等待佛的本性什么时候会发生在你身上？那也是一个思想，它将不会以那种方式发生，永远都不会！ I'm going to tell you a story.有一个国王来到佛陀那里，他是一个献身的人、一个伟大的献身者，他第一次来到佛陀与弟子的聚会，他是来听道的。在他的左手，他拿了一个非常漂亮的黄金饰物，那个饰物是无价的，有很多珠宝在上面，那是他所拥有的最宝贵的东西，是一件稀有的艺术品，他要将它送给佛陀，只是为了要表示他的奉献。当他走近佛陀，左手拿着那无价的珠宝饰物，他要将它送出来，佛陀说："丢掉它！"他觉得很困扰，他从来没有想到会这样，他吓了一跳，但是因为佛陀说： "丢掉它！"所以他就丢掉它。 在他的另外一只手里，在他的右手里，他带了一朵美丽的玫瑰，他以为佛陀可能不喜欢宝石，他可能会认为他所带来的是小孩子的玩意儿，但是有另外一个选择总是好的，所以他带了一朵漂亮的玫瑰，玫瑰并没有那么粗鄙、没有那么物质化，它有一个灵性，它具有某种未知的东西，佛陀或许会喜欢它，因为他说生命是一个流动，而花开在早上，晚上就没有了，它是世界上最像流动的东西，所以他将他的第二只手放在佛陀的面前，他想要献上那朵花，但是佛陀又说："丢掉它！"他觉得非常困扰，现在他已经没有什么东西可以献给佛陀了，但是当佛陀再度告诉他丢掉玫瑰花的时候，他就将它丢掉了。然后，突然间他变成觉知道那个"我"，他想："当我可以献上我自己，我为什么要献上东西呢？"当他变得觉知，两手空空地献上他自己，佛陀再度说："丢掉它！"现在他已经没有什么东西可以丢掉，只是一双空的手，而佛陀说："丢掉它！"摩诃迦叶、舍利子、阿南达以及其他的弟子都在那里，他们开始笑，那个人开始觉知到：即使说："我把我自己献给你。"那也是自我主义的，即使说："现在我在这里，而我要臣服于你。"那也不是臣服，所以他自己就趴下来，佛陀笑着说："你了解得很好。" 除非你甚至放弃这个臣服的概念，除非你甚至放弃这个空手的概念，否则它就不是臣服，一个人甚至必须放弃手中的空。放弃东西是容易了解的，但是之后双手是空的，而佛陀说："丢掉它！甚至不要执著于这个空！"当你做静心，你必须放弃思想。当思想被放弃，还有一个思想会被留下来，那个思想就是："现在我已经变成没有思想了。"有一个微妙的感觉，有一个思想说："现在我已经达成了，现在已经没有思想了，现在头脑是空的，现在我是空的。" 但是这个空充满了这个思想，而不管有很多思想在那里，或是只有一个思想在那里，那都没有什么差别，连那个思想也要抛弃。为什么你在等待佛的本性？"你"无法等待，因为"你"将不在那里，你将永远碰不到佛，当佛发生，你将不会在那里，所以你的希望是没有用的，你是在浪费时间，你将不会在那里。 卡比儿（Kabir：一个成道的神秘家）曾经说过："当我以前是的时候，你不是，现在你是，而卡比儿跑到哪里去了？当我在追寻又追寻，欲求又渴求着你的时候，你不是，因为我在那里。现在你在，请你告诉我，卡比儿跑到哪里去了？那个追寻又追寻，渴求着又哭着要你的那个追求者跑到哪里去了？那个卡比儿跑到哪里去了？" 当佛发生的时候，你将不在那里，所以不要等待、不要欲求，因为你对于"佛将会在什么时候发生在我身上？"以及"我什么时候将变成佛的本性？我什么时候将会成道？"这个欲望将会产生一个障碍——最后的障碍，为了达到完全的自由，对自由的欲望就是最后的障碍。要成道，即使这个想成道的欲望也必须被抛弃、必须被丢开。 伟大的临济禅师曾经说过："如果你在任何地方碰到佛陀，立刻杀掉他！如果你在你静心的任何地方碰到佛，立刻杀掉他！"他是说真的。如果你在任何地方碰到这个成佛的欲望、成道的欲望，立刻杀掉它，唯有如此，它才能够发生，完全没有欲望是需要的，而当我说："完全没有欲望"，我的意思是说即使那个对完全没有欲望的欲求也必须被丢弃。你是，没有任何欲望；你是，没有任何思想，甚至没有觉知到没有思想、没有欲望，然后它就会发生。 最后一个问题： 没有爆炸性的"郁积倾泻"的可能原因是什么？我经常都只有非常温和的郁积倾泻，它是不是一定意味着我没有放开，或是不够放开，或是还有其他可能的原因？我这种顾虑变成我静心当中以及静心之后的一个分心。 第一件必须注意的、必须记住的事是：如果你帮助它发生，如果你跟它合作，郁积的倾泻将会发生得很深。头脑是那么地压抑，你是如此地将事情压下来，以致于要去达到它们，你的合作是需要的。所以每当你觉得即使只有轻微的郁积之倾泻，你也要帮助它变得更强，不要只是等待。如果你觉得你的手在颤抖，不要只是等待，帮助它更颤抖，不要觉得、不要认为它必须是自发性的，所以你必须等待，如果它必须是自发性的，那么你将必须等上好几年，因为你一直压抑了好几年，而那个压抑并不是自发性的，你是故意这样做的。 现在你必须完全反向操作，唯有如此，那个压抑才能够被带到表面来。你觉得想哭，而你只是温和地哭。帮助它哭！使它成为一个很深的尖叫！你不知道，打从一开始，你就一直在压抑你的哭，你没有真正地哭，打从一开始，小孩子就想哭、想笑，哭是他里面一个很深的需要，透过哭，他每天都经历了郁积的倾泻。 小孩子有很多挫折，这是一定的，这是必需的，小孩子想要某种东西，但是他不会说，他不会表达，小孩子想要某些东西，但是父母或许无法满足他，母亲或许不在，她或许在做其他的事而没有办法好好照顾他，在那个时候没有人注意他，所以他就开始哭，母亲就会来说服他、安慰他，因为她受打扰，父亲也受打扰，整个家庭都受打扰，没有一个人想要他哭，哭是一种打扰，因此每一个人都试着要去使他分心、使他不哭。我们可以贿赂他，母亲可以给他玩具、给他牛奶、给他任何可以让他分心或安慰他的东西，但就是不要他哭。 然而哭是一种很深的需要，如果他能够哭，而被允许去哭，他将会再度变新鲜，挫折透过哭而被抛弃，否则，当哭停止，挫折就停留在里面，如此一来，他就继续将它堆积起来。你是一个"堆积起来的"哭。现在，心理学家说你需要一个"原始的尖叫"。目前西方正在发展一种治疗，那种治疗是要帮助你尽情地尖叫，尖叫到你身体的每一个细胞都涉入。如果你能够疯狂地尖叫，把你的整个身体都尖叫进去，你将会舒解很多郁积的痛苦和煎熬，你会变成就像一个小孩子，再度新鲜和天真。 但是那个原始的尖叫不会突然来临，你必须去帮助它，它是那么地深，有很多层压抑，所以不要只是等待，帮助它！当你想哭，就全心全意地哭！将你所有的能量都投进去，而且享受它、帮助它。然后第二件事：享受它，因为如果你不享受你正在做的，它就无法深入，它将会是肤浅的。如果你在尖叫，那么就享受它，享受那件事，感觉它很好。如果你在某处感觉："我所做的是不好的，别人将会怎么说呢？我所做的是多么孩子气！"即使有一丝像这样的感觉都会变成压抑。享受它，以游戏的心情来对待它，享受而且游戏，只要一直问，它是否能够变得更深，你是否能够帮助它更多，以什么样的方式，你能够帮助它更多。 如果你是坐着哭，那么或许如果你开始跳着哭，那个哭将会变得更深，或者，如果你躺在地板上开始打滚，它或许将会变得更深。试着去帮助它，而且享受它，你将会感觉到，你有很多方式可以帮助它。试着去加深它，而且享受那个加深，一旦它本身能够接下去，你就不需要了，一旦它来到了隐藏能量的那个正确的源头，一旦你碰触到了正确的源头，那些能量就被释放出来，那么你就不需要了，你就能够自然流动，自发性的流动，当它开始自发性地流动，你将会完全被净化。 它就好像花朵被雨水所净化，那么它们就变成清新的，每一点灰尘，不管它是如何堆积在它上面的，现在都不存在了，它们就成为它们自己。在生活当中，我们也会累积灰尘，这个郁积的倾泻只是一个净化，帮助它、享受它，然后有一天，那个原始的尖叫将会来临，只要继续做它。我们无法预测它什么时候会来临，那个原始的尖叫什么时候会来临是无法预测的，因为人是非常复杂的，它可能会在这个片刻来临，也可能要花上好几年。有一件事是可以确定的：如果你帮助它、享受它、跟它游戏，它将会来临。