Chapter 53 first quarter

The interrogation of Ye Qisun was like a series of intelligence tests, and sometimes it was simply a brain teaser.At every joint of the evidence, Ye Qisun's answer has unquestionable logical force.Even people who lack historical knowledge will think that Ye Qisun, the so-called "big spy chief", is too misleading.Sometimes in a specific link, the interrogator would even suddenly "weightless" in his narration, and self-question about his own identity would occur: What is the crime of the 70-year-old man in front of him?Is he interrogating a "counter-revolutionary" or a revolutionist?

This brought the interrogation to a stalemate. So the task force focused its attention on external investigations in order to obtain a major breakthrough. Please see a set of exposing materials in the book "The Cornerstone of Chinese Science and Technology"—— Weng Wenhao's "reveal" (written on behalf of others, signed by himself after reading): Ye is at Tsinghua University, where he is the head of the Department of Physics.I also taught (books) (there).Wu Youxun also taught there.After liberation, Tsinghua University attributed (to) Peking University academic theory, and Ye went to Peking University as a professor.Ye didn't do much.Before liberation, I heard people say that at that time, it was the Puppet Academia Sinica, and Zhu Jiahua wanted to invite Ye to be the director-general.The first power is the president, and the second is the director general.Ye went there for a while, but the time was very short, so he didn't continue and left soon.

When Luo Jialun (Jia Lun) of Tsinghua University was the principal, I (was) teaching, and the Geological Survey Institute had financial difficulties. I was a professor and wanted to find a place to work to support my family.The U.S. refund of the International Boxer Indemnity Fund is managed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Luo Jialun thinks it is wrong and should not be managed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Nanjing is called the Board of Directors of the China Education and Culture Foundation. This meeting has long been held, and it was related to Tsinghua University at that time. From 1927 to 1929, Cai Yuan (Yuan) Pei, chairman of the board of directors, and I as directors, Yan Hui (Hui) Qing (died).Later, Wang Jing (Jing) Wei took the lead, and Yan Xi (Xi) Shan came out to beat Chiang Kai-shek.Yan and Feng jointly fought against Chiang, and Luo Jialun belonged to Chiang Kai-shek's faction, and Luo Jialun seems to have left at that time.Later, Wu Nanxuan (who became the principal of Tsinghua University) sent by cc was rejected by Tsinghua University.Nanjing asked me to act as the principal and asked me to find someone.I figured out that the person is Mei Yu (Yi) Qi.I suggested that the person surnamed Mei should be the principal. It was the September 18th Incident.

Tsinghua University has a school council (note: it should be the school council or council), which is very powerful. At that time, there was Ye Nei and Feng Youlan.They have a lot of power, and there were very few things I could do at that time. They were the ones who made the decisions.At that time, Luo Jialun was not the principal, and issued a notice: "Scholars can be killed but not humiliated."Acting Principal Ye was approved by me. At that time, there was a deputy minister of the Ministry of Education named Qian Changzhao (in the Kuomintang in Beijing); there was also a minister: Wang Shijie (in Taiwan) who was cc.At that time, the headmaster was very influenced by factions.

Mei Yiqi valued Hu Shi very much, and later Mei joined the Kuomintang.When Liberation, I went to France, Mei was in Paris, and his family was in Hong Kong.After waiting for a long time, he got some advice and went to America. Zhu Jiahua served as the Minister of Communications (Minister), and Zhu was a professor at Peking University during the Beiyang Warlords (period), and later did a lot of work for the Kuomintang.Zhu and Ye must know each other, otherwise, Zhu would not move Ye to become the director-general of the Central South (Central) Research Institute. I know Ding Wenjiang. Ding Wenjiang, as the director-general, set up a council, which was discussed by Cai Yuanpei. Recommending 3 people is called Jiang (Jieshi) to choose. At that time, there were 3 people: me, Zhu Jiahua, and Hu Shi.Later Zhu Jiahua became the dean.A meeting was held in Nanjing, and the principals of each school were called to hold a meeting to select the reviewers.The director-general is decided by the president, and the director-general has great power.The first director-general was Yang Quan.Yang was killed by Chiang Kai-shek's secret agents.Next is Ding Wenjiang (died).Yang worked as a secretary for Sun Yat-sen.I was not a party member at the time. In the second half of 1937, when I was the Minister of Economic Affairs, I was informed that I was a member of the Kuomintang.When the September 18th Incident, I was in Beijing. In 1932, Chiang Kai-shek's subordinates came, contacted several people, and sent Qian Changzhao to contact me, and asked us to go to Chiang's place to talk in batches. In 1932, Jiang set up a resource association, with Qian as the deputy secretary-general and I as the secretary-general, but I did not take office.He wants us to recruit many people as Chiang's subordinates. In 1936, Chiang Kai-shek became the President of the Executive Yuan and asked me (to be) the Secretary-General of the Executive Yuan.After becoming Secretary-General, the Xi’an Incident (happened) and Jiang was forced to resist the Japanese. Jiang said: Asking me to attend the coronation ceremony of the King of England is actually asking me to visit people in power in various countries and ask them if they have sympathy for China.I went to Britain, Germany, and the Soviet Union, and signed a treaty with the Soviet Union. At that time, China was already fighting.Back in Nanjing, ask me to be the Minister of Economic Affairs (Ministry). "I don't care, actually you care." Jiang said.The resource will be made public, but it turned out to be secret.Ye Qisun is not a member.

Weng Wenhao on May 8, 1968 No. 51, Article 8, Dayuejin Road, Beijing No. 24, Ju'er (er) Hutong, Jiaodaokou Feng Youlan's "Reveal" (handwritten): Ye Qisun, according to the factions in Beijing’s educational circles before liberation, was the second person in the Tsinghua School (the number one person was Mei Yiqi), who acted as an agent for Tsinghua University several times, served as the dean of the School of Science (dean), and was in charge of Tsinghua University The work of several research institutes has a great influence in Tsinghua University. I have not heard that he has joined the Kuomintang, nor have I heard that he has joined a faction within the Kuomintang.However, he has a very close relationship with Zhu Jiahua.In the early days of the Anti-Japanese War, Ye Qisun left Tsinghua University to serve as the director-general of the Academia Sinica of the Kuomintang.The dean at that time was Zhu Jiahua.According to the organization of the Academia Sinica at that time, the director-general was actually in charge of the affairs of the academy.In the late period of the Anti-Japanese War, Ye returned to Tsinghua University and went to Kunming to join the Southwest Associated University. The director-general of the Academia Sinica invited Sa Bendong, a professor of physics at Tsinghua University, to succeed him.Sa had nothing to do with Zhu Jiahua originally.I think the reason why Sa Bendong was able to hold this important position was also recommended by Ye Qisun.I don't know what happened, this is my inference.

Ye Qisun is quite old in the scientific field. He is in charge of several research institutes of Tsinghua University and has considerable ability.I don't know whether Zhu Jiahua chose Ye Qisun as the director-general of Academia Sinica just because of this, or if there is some other organizational relationship. Feng Youlan December 9, 1972 Dai Shiguang's "exposing" (personally written): Before 1938, in Tsinghua University, Ye Qisun was a professor (Department of Physics).I am a student (Department of Economics, Tsinghua University).I don't know Ye. From the summer of 1938, I started to know Ye Qisun at Tsinghua University in Kunming (also known as Southwest Associated University), because I was a colleague at Tsinghua University.Until the liberation of Tsinghua University (the end of 1948), they taught together in Tsinghua University (Ye was in the Department of Physics, and I was in the Department of Economics), but they were not familiar with each other and had no personal contacts.I am not clear about the questions in the outline of the survey on Ye Qisun's situation.Next, I will give a comprehensive explanation of the four questions in the outline as follows.

1, 2, 3: I don’t know, and I haven’t heard of Tsinghua’s Central Unification Organization (I think: “Zhongtong” probably refers to the spy organization of the Kuomintang reactionaries, not the “Chinese Statistical Society” in the Kuomintang era. I have participated in the Chinese Statistical Association and am a member).But Tsinghua does not have a statistical branch; Ye Qisun does not, and will not participate in the Chinese Statistical Association. 4: On the political history of Ye Qisun.I only know that during the Tsinghua period in Kunming (from the summer of 1938 to the summer of 1946, I can’t remember the exact year), Ye Qisun went to Chongqing to serve as the director-general of the Academia Sinica of the Kuomintang; Back to teach at Tsinghua University in Kunming.I don't know about Ye Qisun's employment in Chongqing Academia Sinica.

On the eve of the July 7th Incident in 1937, I did not know the situation at Tsinghua University in Peking. I was studying abroad at the time. On the eve of the liberation of Tsinghua University in 1948, I didn't know that Tsinghua had any "contingency committee". On the eve of Tsinghua’s liberation in 1948, I knew that Tsinghua’s defense committee was established by Mei Yiqi (the name is probably like this, but I can’t remember exactly), and the person in charge was Chen Futian (the head of the foreign language department). The staff and the person in charge of the campus police, I was also hired to participate in the security committee.I remember that the duty of the defense committee was to organize faculty and staff to defend the Tsinghua campus to prevent theft, robbery and damage when there was a war outside Beiping city (for example, when the Kuomintang retreated into Beiping city and the People's Liberation Army had not yet stationed near Tsinghua University, Tsinghua University was in a "vacuum" zone , the committee organized human patrols, vigils, etc.).I remember that Ye Qisun did not participate in the defense committee; I remember that there was Qian Weichang from Tsinghua University in the committee.

In the winter of 1943, I was introduced to join the Kuomintang at the Southwest Associated University, but I have never participated in the organizational activities of the Kuomintang. I have never heard of Ye Qisun joining the Kuomintang.I always thought that Ye Qisun was a professor without party affiliation. Apart from knowing that Ye Qisun served as the director-general of the Academia Sinica of the Kuomintang during the Anti-Japanese War, I don't know what other political historical issues Ye Qisun has. (Attachment: From 1938 to the summer of 1946, I knew that there was a KMT branch in Kunming Southwest Associated University; from the summer of 1946 to the end of 1948, Tsinghua Garden was liberated. I never knew whether there were KMT organizations and activities in Tsinghua Garden.)

Regarding Ye Qisun's situation, I can't provide any insiders or clues. I can only mention some people who are more familiar with Ye Qisun and those who know (or may know) the situation of the Kuomintang in Kunming United University and Peking Tsinghua University, as follows: 1. Zhou Peiyuan (professor of the Department of Physics of the United Nations University and Tsinghua University), now at Tsinghua University. 2. Chen Daisun (professor of the Department of Economics of the United Nations University and Tsinghua University, Chen and Ye lived in the same room in Kunming), now Peking University. 3. Qian Weichang (professor of the Department of Physics, Tsinghua University), now Tsinghua University. 4. Huo Bingquan (professor of the Department of Physics of the United Nations University and Tsinghua University, probably a member of the Kuomintang), at Henan University (before 1956). 5. Zheng Huachi (Professor of the Department of Physics of the United Nations University and Peking University, and the Dean of Dean, served as the responsible position of the Kuomintang Department of the United Nations University during the Kunming United University), now at Normal University. 6. Chu Shiquan (Professor of the United Nations University, Tsinghua Institute of Technology, Tsinghua Dean, may know whether Tsinghua has a Kuomintang organization. Chu and Ye participated in Tsinghua's school meetings), now Tsinghua. 7. Wu Zelin (Professor of the Department of Sociology of the United Nations University and Tsinghua University, Dean of Tsinghua University), now at the Central University for Nationalities. xxx (a middle-level administrative cadre)'s "exposing and explaining": 1...About the leadership core and fund management of the Central Committee: The core leadership of the Central Committee in Tsinghua University is Mei Yiqi, Shen Lu, Wu Zelin, Ye Qisun, Dai Shiguang and others.I don't know who manages the activities of this organization, because I have no experience with finance. Some expenses, such as some benefits for the workers and police, are cleverly set up as administrative expenses, because the regulations for administrative expenses are: I will sign if the amount is less than 100 yuan. It is valid; if the price is more than 100 yuan and less than 500 yuan, in addition to my signature, Shen Lu's signature is required; if the price is more than 500 yuan, Mei Yiqi's signature is required. xxx September 5, 1969 2 Regarding the members of the central government in Tsinghua that I mentioned: In the conversation, Shen Lu mentioned that the educational institutions and scientific research institutions at that time were all controlled by the Chen family, and the important persons in charge of each institution had to join his organization Come.Therefore, my understanding is that the deans of Tsinghua University, such as Feng Youlan, Chen Daisun (Sun), Tang Peisong, etc., are all members of the Central Committee.Shi Jiayang went to the United States after the surrender of Japan. He returned to school not long before the liberation and had no activities, so I did not mention him... Regarding Wang Jianjun, Li Jianqiu, He Ruji, etc., they were all in school from 1946 to 1948. (Yue), and Wu Zelin, Shen Lu and others have relatively close contacts and often whisper together, so I think these few people are also members who developed during this period.I think about myself, and about them, too, but I can't come up with proof. xxx September 12, 1969 3 About the organization of the Central Committee in Tsinghua: The Central Committee is in Tsinghua, and Mei Yiqi, Wu Zelin, Shen Lu, Ye Qisun, Dai Shiguang and others are the leadership core.Mei Yiqi has total power.In Beiping, it is directly led by the intelligence group of the KMT City Party Headquarters (Central Unification System).Any black "instructions" or reactionary activities arranged by them are carried out through this group.Asking for instructions and reporting is also to contact the intelligence team.For Tsinghua University, Shen Lu and Dai Shiguang went to the municipal party headquarters to ask for instructions and report.There are also differences and competitions in the institutions of the Nanjing Central Reunification. From the end of 1946, Zhu Jiahua, the pseudo-minister of the Ministry of Education, tried his best to expand his own power. He arrested the major middle and high schools in Beiping City through Wang xx, the director of the pseudo-education bureau (bureau) of Peiping City. Some black "instructions" were contacted and arranged by this director Wang. of.Therefore, the Zhongtong Organization in Beiping City has virtually become a dual leader in Tsinghua.The Puppet Education Bureau of Beiping asked Tsinghua’s Central Unification Organization to recommend professors and teachers to universities and middle schools, in order to expand the reactionary forces of this faction in universities and middle schools.Although they have factional differences, their main purpose is still the same, and they are all to monitor and suppress various student revolutionary movements led by the Communist Party. xxx October 6, 1969 4 About Ye Qisun 1. Whether Ye is a member of the Central Committee: From 1946 to 1948, the main person in charge of the "Zhongtong" in Tsinghua University was Mei Yiqi, the principal, and Ye Qisun was the dean of the Faculty of Science. Ye Qisun acted as the principal, that is, he did this before and after the Anti-Japanese War.Until after liberation, Ye served as the chairman of the school committee for a period of time following the past practice.At that time, Zhu Jiahua, the head of the puppet Ministry of Education (minister), was the number one thug under Chen Lifu, the leader (son) of the reactionary organization "Zhongtong". His relationship with Ye Qisun was the same as that between Mei and Zhu. Ye joined this reactionary organization.As for whether Ye is indeed a member of the central system, I don't know. Regarding the division of labor among the backbone members of the Tsinghua reactionary organization "Zhongtong", as far as I know: Shen Lu is in charge of the staff, Dai Shiguang is in charge of the students, and Wu Zelin is in charge of the teachers.Shen Lu also mentioned in a conversation that Ye was monitoring some activities of progressive teachers in the school. 2. The "Contingency Committee" in Tsinghua University: At the end of 1948, when the War of Liberation was approaching the western suburbs of Beijing, the "Central Reunification" reactionary organization saw that the general situation of Jiang's bandit gang was over, so it called its members to organize a "response committee", and held two meetings successively.The first time was planning to relocate.At that time, it was planned to send Li Jitong to Kunming and Shen Lu to Chengdu to contact the school respectively.It is planned to send Wu Jingchao to Nanjing to contact Jiang Menglin (Meng) Lin, Secretary-General of the Puppet Executive Yuan, to contact the school relocation funds and so on.At the same time, foreign manufacturers who ordered instruments and equipment for the school were also notified to suspend the delivery of materials to Beijing and other activities.Later, due to the rapid progress of the Liberation War, their illusions about moving the school were shattered, that is, the second meeting was arranged to hide, and the various colleges and departments still held on to the leadership after liberation in an attempt to help the Chiang Bandits make a comeback and realize their goal of continuing to rule Tsinghua University. Evil conspiracy.The first meeting was presided over by Mei Yiqi; the second meeting was planned by Mei Yiqi at the Qihelou Tsinghua Alumni Association in the city before Mei Yiqi escaped. The three of them returned to school and convened in the Gongzi hall, which was conveyed by Shen Lu. According to the above situation, I think Ye is a member of the Zhongtong reactionary organization, and it is relatively important. As for what Shen Lu told me about Ye's monitoring of teachers' progress activities in the school, it was when talking about some teachers' refusal to accept relief food from the Rehabilitation and Relief Administration. Shen said that Ye Qisun was watching the actions of these teachers. xxx December 21, 1971 This is a set of exposing materials that make people laugh and cry.Weng Wenhao, Feng Youlan and others were all well-known for a time. If they exposed Ye Qisun's "secret behavior" during the Kuomintang period, even if it was a little bit, it would be a breakthrough for the task force.However, these true intellectuals did not lose their independent personality and human conscience during the special period. Although they themselves may be imprisoned and precarious, they still stand in their own moral moats and leave a lifetime for future generations. Clear figure.And the latter kind of people, even though they made false claims and put Ye Qisun on the hat of "Central Reunification" spy, but the investigators of the special case team knew that with their identities and status at the time, it was difficult to know the status of such a high-end figure as Ye Qisun.What makes people laugh is Mr. Dai Shiguang. He changed his style of writing and "confuses" the "Chinese Statistical Society" with "Central Unification". It really has the crosstalk effect of Mr. Hou Baolin's "Guan Gong fighting Qin Qiong", which makes people laugh .The laughter that flew out from the vast history relieved the sadness and depression when reading these historical materials, and the souls of a generation of Tsinghua people emerged from it, clearly identifiable... Tsinghua has a soul.