The manuscript of "Undercover Adventure" has been transferred to more than 30 publishing houses, and it has been delayed for nearly three years. Although most of the incidents have been reported, the publishing houses are still worried about "sensitivity".I went around and around, so that everyone in the publishing circle knew about my book.Later, several publishing houses came up with the idea, and then several well-known booksellers came to their door. The highest one offered 80,000 yuan to buy out the copyright, but I finally chose the China Federation of Literary and Art Circles, which has been promoting newcomers.It's just that I didn't expect that the social response would be so strong after the book was released.So far, more than 60 newspapers and periodicals across the country have introduced and serialized it. "Beijing Evening News", "Beijing Youth Weekly", "Beijing Entertainment Letter" and "Youth Digest" have all reported on my rough experience.I have also received thousands of letters and emails from readers from all over the world...

Time: January 28, 2005 Location: Eastern Suburbs of Beijing Character: Gu Qingsheng, a professional writer Shi Ye, China's No. 1 Undercover Reporter Gu Qingsheng: Shi Ye, I remember that you came to Beijing in 1999. At that time, you came to Lu Xun Academy of Literature to study. You jumped from Guangzhou to Beijing to become a writer. You also made an appointment to go to Hoh Xil to write about Tibetan antelopes. Later, I planned to go to the Yellow River. Change, you have released two long documentaries in the past few years.I think your advantage lies in the documentary aspect. Now, in terms of current affairs documentary, after Zhang Shengyou, Jia Lusheng, and Mai Tianshu faded out of writing, recent years of documentary literature have been a bit cold, and Lu Yuegang's "Great Country and Few People" is relatively hot.However, your situation is indeed very special. From a literary youth, to a member of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Marine Corps, to a reporter, both literary and military, documentary writing is very suitable for you. This is the right path. Now the media outside the reaction Very big, as a fellow, I would like to congratulate you first!

Ishino: Thank you.I finally failed to fulfill my novel dream, so I think I can only be a journalist in my old profession and specialize in skills.My two long documentaries can be said to be two super long in-depth reports, because I just record the news events, news inside stories, and interview feelings I have experienced.Just like I am a reporter, the purpose of writing reports is to inform the society of all kinds of information that happened recently, and to tell readers the truth in a timely manner.I just want to tell you some real news inside stories. I write them with passion and a sense of mission as a journalist, so I am more passionate than writing novels, because many of the experiences in them are more tortuous and thrilling than the current novel stories. I feel real. What is more powerful than fiction.

Gu Qingsheng: "Undercover Adventures" has indeed created a precedent for Chinese documentary literature. First of all, you went undercover as a political and legal reporter for interviews. At the same time, you have been engaged in literary writing for so many years, and you have the military temperament tempered by the army. Everyone It is not bad to be able to choose one of them. You have experienced all three aspects, and this is where your uniqueness lies.It doesn't seem so easy for this book to come out?Anyway, I heard your phone call to announce the good news many times, and finally it was published in China Federation of Literary and Art Circles Publishing House in 2004.

Ishino: Very difficult. The manuscript of "Undercover Adventure" has been transferred to more than 30 publishing houses, and it has been delayed for nearly three years. Although most of the incidents have been reported, the publishing houses are still worried about "sensitivity".I went around and around, so that everyone in the publishing circle knew about my book.Later, several publishing houses came up with the idea, and then several well-known booksellers came to their door. The highest one offered 80,000 yuan to buy out the copyright, but I finally chose the China Federation of Literary and Art Circles, which has been promoting newcomers.It's just that I didn't expect that the social response would be so strong after the book was released.So far, more than 60 newspapers and periodicals across the country have introduced and serialized it. "Beijing Evening News", "Beijing Youth Weekly", "Beijing Entertainment Letter" and "Youth Digest" have all reported on my rough experience.I have also received thousands of letters and emails from readers from all over the world...

Gu Qingsheng: It can be expected that if a manuscript is transferred to 30 publishing houses and dare not publish it, it is because it has real goods!However, the three-year delay was brutal, so your second book came out shortly after. Ishino: After "Undercover Adventure" was delivered, I started writing the second part.At that time, the "Kappa Reporter Series" of the Literary Association and the "Xia Kexing Documentary Series" of Founder's Society were vying for my top manuscript, and finally it was awarded to the Literary Association. In order to make up for this regret, I wrote a second book "Chendi Reporter: My Journey to Justice".The first book is a record of my adventures in the South, and the second book is about my bumpy growth process. Its style and content are in line with my previous book, or it can be regarded as a sequel.Although it also records some of my experience as a reporter in the south, although there are a few repetitions in the content, most of them are completely different and independent interview stories.

Gu Qingsheng: In my opinion, it is interesting to read the two books together.Because in the eyes of the general public in China, journalists are the ones who pick up cars and send them off, and they are very chic and nourishing.Who would have thought that there are no reporters in this world who would dare to go undercover, call themselves brothers in the underworld, and finally bring out all the underworld.Undercover adventure, as soon as you hear the word, there is drama.But why go undercover?Why not a high salary?Or just to write quickly?But this is at the risk of decapitation.By reading your second book "Undercover Reporter", you may know more about you Shi Ye. I think some factors can be summarized: 1. It is necessary to talk about your hometown Daye. I think you mentioned that you are a university student. Ye people, but did not introduce Daye to readers.Daye is now a county-level city, but it occupies a very important page in the civilization history of the Chinese nation, and it is one of the birthplaces of the bronze civilization.In China, several places claim to have had a bronze civilization, and there are records in historical materials, but there is no physical evidence, and some of them are excavations in ancient tombs.Only Daye, it started copper mining and copper smelting from the Spring and Autumn Period to the Western Zhou Dynasty. At that time, it belonged to Echeng, and it was established as an independent county in the Middle Tang Dynasty. It was named Daye, which originally meant "Daxing Furnace". It now has the only preserved ancient mining and metallurgy site from the Bronze Age in China.When I was in the geological team, I participated in the exploration and excavation of the ancient mining and smelting remains of Tonglu Mountain in Daye.There used to be a brilliant bronze civilization, and the rich bronze culture made people raised in this place have a super enterprising spirit, unyielding, unyielding, this is the general character of Daye people, we joked, Daye people have a more gangster personality, they are loyal, they are not afraid of death, and they are determined to move forward.Daye is a place of ancient industrial civilization. There are many literati. In the Qing Dynasty, there was a prime minister. Unfortunately, this prime minister, Yu Guozhu, was an official for 26 years. He was a clean official for 24 years. Let's not mention him.I used to go fishing in the reservoir of his hometown in Mingshan, where there is a place called Jiyudi.Shi Ye has a very distinct character of Daye people, daring to go undercover is like walking in a dark and rugged ancient alleyway, and the danger is similar.2. Ishino also benefited from his training in the Marine Corps of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. I know that the military aspect cannot be written due to military confidentiality, but I can imagine the situation of confronting Vietnamese armed ships, that kind of ready to sacrifice for the motherland at any time Combat training, the kind of wit and courage to sneak into the enemy's rear, etc., really laid a good foundation for Ishino's growth.3. Ishino also received good literary training when he was in middle school before joining the army.I am deeply impressed. You have repeatedly mentioned the help Mr. Yin Xianyang, Mr. Zha Daiwen and Mr. Hu Yanhuai have given you. They are the teachers of Daye literati. Your experience at Xiaoleishan Pen Club is very important, and you have no money to eat. Food, buy a meal in the cafeteria every day, take the lunch box and go outside to hide to eat. Yin Xianyang was the cultural curator at that time, he found out and bought vegetables for you.Later, after you settled down in Guangzhou, you tried to repay this kindness.You also helped Hu Yanhuai in the lawsuit for the novella "White Board" in Beijing. I think this kind of quality of Daye people is very important. It is reflected in the teachers and fellow villagers. It is a sense of nostalgia, and in society it is a sense of justice.I think that the factors of a person's growth are comprehensive, but Ishino's growth history runs through the fighting spirit of challenging fate and never yielding.There has never been a savior. If Ishino did not persevere in his struggle, he might still grow rice in the countryside of Daye, or enter a mine as a miner. It is not that these occupations are not good, but that Ishino has a beautiful literary dream. A lofty ideal, you are embarking on this path and realizing your dream. At the age of 30, two books have been published, with large circulation and great social response. His parents are farmers without any social background. From a marine to a news lone knight, this itself is full of romance. Ishino's advocacy of justice is a personal experience. "Undercover Reporter" was published by Founder Publishing House of China, which is also a proof. This publishing house belongs to the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection and the Ministry of Supervision. It can be seen that both the official and the people agree. of.

Ishino: My hometown is very important to my upbringing. In fact, I didn’t finish middle school. A fire burned down my house, so I had to work in agriculture, and even went to the mine to dig mines to survive the family’s difficulties.Indeed, the literature teachers in Daye played a vital role in cultivating me on the road of writing.Mr. Yin Xianyang passed away, he did not read my book, otherwise, he would be very happy.Last year, my father also passed away, but he saw my book.Now, the society pays a lot of attention to my books, but I am summing up myself. Since I rely on writing to survive, the time is very tight, and there are some regrets in some places. I will read more books.

Gu Qingsheng: It is good to have this spirit of reflection.Personal history is constantly summing up and growing, which is the process of progress.I think that many readers don’t just read the excitement in the book, many of them read it on Sina.com, and maybe they also want to learn something from your experience. Every individual’s history of success and struggle can inspire you. For a group of people, the significance of Ishino's success lies in providing an example for hundreds of millions of rural youths, wisdom, courage, hard work, persistence, opportunities, etc. The same society is the same for everyone's growth, and some people have succeeded , Some people are still on the way to forge ahead. I believe that as China's first undercover reporter, Shi Ye entered the social field of vision, and the Chinese literary world, which is popular for delicate fashion writing, will also have a kind of shock.I think the meaning of struggle is important, and giving up means yielding to fate, bowing your head, and you will fall into eternal spiritual darkness.

Ishino: Yes.Because of my struggle, I also made many friends and teachers. Professor Wang Weizhong is one of them. He is a representative of the 90th National People's Congress, a professor and doctoral supervisor of Jilin University, and he is also one of the submitters of the "News Supervision Law" proposal. , He wrote a preface to "Undercover Reporter". Such an important scholar not only paid attention to my private prosecution case again and again, but was also able to write a preface to my writing. If he was not moved by the spirit of struggle, how could he be moved?In my more than 30 years of history, I only believe in the word struggle.I have nothing to repay all those who cared and helped me, I can only repay by continuing to struggle.

Gu Qingsheng: Entrusted by the editors of Sina, we talked a lot today. I don’t want to talk about the things you have already reported.What I want to say is that your biggest advantage is that you don't smoke or play mahjong. Among the literati in Hubei, if you don't play mahjong and play computer, you will get results.Of course, you can relax a little during the Chinese New Year. Let's talk again when we go back to Daye, and I will go back too.First of all, I wish the editors of Sina.com and the majority of netizens a happy new year and all the best in everything! Ishino: Okay, thank you, let's talk back to Daye.I wish you all a happy new year, good luck and good luck! (Gu Qingsheng, drifted from Daye, Hubei to Beijing in the 1990s to engage in professional writing. He has written novels such as "Wandering in Beijing" and many essays.