Chapter 26 Chapter 24 St. Matthew's Institute

Interview Note No. 11, Patient ID: 3643, Doctor: Anthony Fowler Dr. Fowler: Good afternoon, Father Karowski. 3643: Please come in please come in. Dr. Fowler: I came to see you because you refused to talk to Dr. Crowe. 3643: I was insulted by his attitude, in fact, I told him to go away. Dr. Fowler: Specifically, what attitude do you mean? 3643: Father Crowe asked me a few questions about my beliefs, which are unquestionable truths. Dr. Fowler: Like? 3643: He says the devil is an overrated concept!It'll be fun to watch that concept play out on him when he's finished. Dr. Fowler: Do you think you'll see it?

3643: That's what I said. Dr. Fowler: You believe in hell, don't you? 3643: Absolutely. Dr. Fowler: Do you think you'll be going there? 3643: I am the defender of Christ. Dr. Fowler: That doesn't mean anything. 3643: Since when did you feel that way? Dr. Fowler: There's no guarantee that a defender of Christ is going to heaven or hell. 3643: If he is a good guard he will go to heaven. Dr. Fowler: Father, I want to give you a book that I think will be of great help to you.It was written by St. Augustine.It is a book about the struggle in the inner world of human beings.

3643: I'd love to read it. Dr. Fowler: Do you believe you go to heaven when you die? 3643: I'm sure. Dr. Fowler: So you know a lot more than I do. 3643: ... Dr. Fowler: Let me give you a hypothesis.For example, if you and I are standing at the gate to heaven, God evaluates your good deeds and bad deeds, and the result is even.Then he asks you to find someone to dispel his doubts about you.who will you turn to 3643: I don't know who to turn to. Dr. Fowler: Let me give you names: Ryan Jimmy, Ruvis, Arthur... 3643: I am not familiar with these people. Dr. Fowler: ...Henry, Mike, John, Grant...

3643: Shut up! Dr. Fowler: ...Paul, Sammy, Patrick... 3643: Shut up!I warn you! Dr. Fowler: ...Jonathan, Alan, Sam... 3643: Enough! (A brief and confused tussle between the two can be heard on the tape.) Dr. Fowler: It's your windpipe that I'm holding with my fingers, Father Karowski.If you don't calm down, it's going to keep hurting here.Give me a signal with your left hand if you understand.Well, if you calm down a bit give me another sign, little by little, all right.Here, let's drink some water. 3643: Thank you. Dr. Fowler: Please sit down. 3643: I'm much better.I don't know what was holding me back just now.

Dr. Fowler: We both know what just happened.Just like we both know, the list of kids I read just now, they're not going to take your side when they're standing in the presence of an omniscient and all-powerful God. 3643: ... Dr. Fowler: Don't you want to say something? 3643: You know nothing about hell. Dr. Fowler: Do you think so?You are wrong, I have seen it with my own eyes.I'll turn off the recording now and tell you some stories that will surely interest you.