Chapter 79 Chapter Eighteen

How did a British scholar want to argue with Panagure, but was refuted by Panurge In those few days, a profound scholar named Domaste, who heard the legend of the invincible knowledge of Pagoda, specially ran from England with the sole purpose of seeing and getting to know him. This giant Guay, testify whether his learning is as rumored.As soon as he arrived in Paris, he went straight to the Hotel Saint-Denis, where Paiguret was staying at the time.At this time, Paganuel was walking in the garden with Panurge, and talking about learning in the Aristotelian manner.As soon as Domaste entered, he was startled at the sight of the tall and massive figure of Pagodaguel, and then he saluted him according to the usual custom, and said to him politely:

"Plato, the king of philosophy, is right. If the image of learning and wisdom is manifested in the body and visible to human eyes, it will surely make all people admire him. Because, only the legendary As far as fame is concerned, if this fame reaches the ears of scholars and people who seek knowledge called philosophers, they will no longer be able to sleep peacefully, nor can they be quiet. would come to see what kind of man was the learned man from whom the oracle was uttered. As we have evidently seen, the queen of Sheba, in order to see the order of the kingdom of the prophet Solomon, and to hear him Judgments of wisdom, had come to see him from the far east, across the Persian Sea; "Plato visited the sorcerers of Egypt and Archytas of Lando ④; The country of the Masakita ⑧ and the Indians, crossed the Pisong River ⑨, visited the land of Brahma ⑩, visited Charshas (11), and visited Babylon and Cardia (12) , Medea (13), Assyria, Bardia (14), Syria, Phoenicia, Arabia, Palestine, Alexandria, all the way to Aisiopia (15), to visit the philosophers of the Indian school (16) .

"The same example, we have also seen in the writings of Titus Levy. Many scholars came to Rome from the border between France and Spain to visit him and listen to his teachings. ① "Domaster", according to the Greek, means: "Admirable, surprising." ② Saint-Denis Hotel: The former residence of Saint-Denis monks in Paris, which was later changed to a Benedictine school. The author may have lived here when he was a Benedictine monk. ③ Walking and discussing at the same time; it is said that when Aristotle gave lectures, he walked and explained at the same time. ④ In ancient times, the queen of Arabia, Yemen, heard of Solomon's reputation, and once visited him. For the story, see "Old Testament - 1 Kings", chapter 10, verses 1 to 3, and "New Testament, Matthew", chapter 12. Forty-two and "New Testament? Luke Gospel" chapter eleventh thirty-first section are mentioned.

① Anacarsis: A Scythian philosopher in the sixth century BC. He came to Athens from Sitia and became friends with Solon.See the seventh chapter of the fifth volume of Arianus's "Historical Collection". ② Solon (640-558 BC): A famous Athenian jurist. ③ Memphis: The name of the ancient city on the Nile River in Egypt, and the story of Pythagoras' visit to Memphis, see Chapter 9 of Pythagoras' Biography by Porphyry. ④ Dalando: The name of the city in southern Italy, near the Dalando Bay. ⑤ Archytas (430-365 BC): Pythagorean philosopher, friend of Plato. ⑥ Apollonius: Pythagorean philosopher in the first century.

⑦ Caucasus Mountains: The mountains between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. ⑧ Masakita people: the Scythian people east of the Caspian Sea. ⑨ Pisong River: the Paradise River that flows through Paradise in mythology. ⑩ "Brahma": Indian Brahman priests. ① See the third chapter of the second volume of "Plinius the Young" by Tieter Levy. "I dare not count myself among these sages, but I like studying very much, not only for literature, but also for literati. "So, since I heard that you have profound knowledge, I have left my country, relatives, and hometown, and come here. I don't care about the long distance, across the sea, and through unknown lands, just thinking that I can Seeing you, I can talk with you about some philosophical, divination and theological questions that I doubt and cannot convince myself. If you can solve these questions for me, I will be your slave right away. I, and My future descendants, because I don't think other methods are enough to repay you.

"I'm going to put this in writing, and let the scholars of the town know tomorrow, so that we can have a public debate in their presence. "The way I hold debate is this: I don't want to argue about pro et contra, like some vain sophists here and elsewhere; I don't want to decide by numbers, like Pythagoras,3 which Bigus Mirandura planned to do in Rome;4 I want to argue with gestures, without words, because what we are discussing is So superb, human language is not enough to explain. "For this reason; I ask your Excellency to be in the hall of the Navarre school punctually at seven o'clock tomorrow morning."

Having said these words, Paiguguet said to him politely: "My lord, the favors bestowed upon me by Heaven, I have no intention of failing to share them with any one; for from him all virtue comes, and he means that men be just and fit to receive true learning. --this divine ration--carries it on in the company of people of whom I can see now that you are at the forefront, and therefore I inform your Excellency that if need be, use it I should do my best at any time, and listen to what I want, but what I learn from you will far exceed what you learn from me. Now that you propose it, we should study your question together , Find a conclusion, even if it goes all the way to the infinite abyss, as Heraclitus said, the truth is hidden in the abyss①.

"I very much agree with your way of debating, which is to use only gestures and no words; because in this way, you and I can understand each other, but avoid those stupid sophists who blindly applaud when others argue, especially if someone proposes a better argument. when judging. "So tomorrow, I will definitely arrive on time at the place and time you specified, but please note that there is no dispute or discord between us personally. What we seek is neither honor nor praise from others, but Simple truth." To these words Domaster replied: "My lord, in order to thank your great dignity for condescending to my humble lowliness, I ask God to bless you. Good-bye, see you tomorrow."

"Good-bye," said Paiguguet. Gentlemen, you who read this book, believe that no one was more erratic in his thoughts that night than Domaste and Panaguret.Domaste told the porter of the Cluny Hotel where he was staying, that he had never been so thirsty in his life as he had been that night.He said: ② Latin: "Yes and no, for and against." ③ Use a certain number to represent a certain idea, for example: thirty refers to marriage, sixty refers to widowhood, and one hundred refers to chastity. ④ Bigus Mirandura: the Italian scholar Bigus de la Miranda in the 15th century. He once proposed to do 900 academic debates, which caused a sensation in Rome. Northang VIII approved, but did not use numbers.

⑤ At that time, the academic debates on weekends and on the eve of festivals were held in the downstairs hall of the Naval School. ① This statement was made by Democritus, not Heraclitus. ② Cluny Hotel: The residence of the Cluniac priests in Paris, they also rent out houses to receive noble tourists. "It seems to me that Paguguay is choking me. Will you please bring us something to drink, and prepare us with plenty of cold water, and I will wash the roof of my mouth well." On the other hand, Grande Guay was also in intense meditation, and spent the whole night thinking only in a daze:

Of Beda 1: De Numeris et Signis 2; of Prothinus 3: De Inenarrabilibus 4; of Procles 5: De Magia 6; of Artemis Dorus 7: Peri onirocriticon 8; of Anaxagoras 9 : Peri Semion⑩; Inarius's: Peri Aphaton(11); Philistion's (12); Hipponax's (13): Peri Anecphoneton(14); and a whole host of others at the end of the book, Panurge said to him: "My lord, don't think about it, go to sleep, because I see that your mind is so tense, I'm afraid you will have acute cold and fever due to overthinking. You go and drink twenty-five to thirty cups of him first." Drink, go back and have a good sleep, and tomorrow morning, I will answer and argue with that English gentleman, and if I can't make him admetannonloqui, you can just scold me." "But," said Paiguguet, "Panugès, my friend, is a very learned man; how can you please him?" "It must have pleased him very much," replied Panurge; "please stop talking and let me do it. Is there anyone else as wise as the devil?" "Of course not," said Paiguguay, "unless he has the special help of the gods." "It is the devil," said Panurge, "and I have argued with them many times, and I have always said that they are speechless and have no answer. So you just don't worry about this high-spirited Englishman." Yes, tomorrow I'll make sure he makes a fool of himself in public." Panurge and his followers drank and gambled all night, and lost their belts to "Primus et Secondus"② and "Primus et Secondus"③.When the appointed time came, he accompanied his master Pagueure to the designated place. Believe it or not, everyone in Paris, young and old, was there, and everyone was thinking: "The ghost of Paiguguay has beaten all the old and new tricksters in the seminary, and this time he has a strong opponent, because this Englishman is also a fellow with a history. We will see who wins who. .” ① Beda: British priest and historian in the seventh century, author of works expressing meaning with gestures. ② Latin: "Numbers and Gesture Symbols". ③ Plotinus (205-70): Roman neo-Platonist philosopher. ④ Latin: "On the Ineffable", a Neo-Platonist metaphysics. ⑤ Proclus (412-85): that is, Proclus, the Neo-Platonist philosopher. ⑥ Latin:, the full name is: De Sacrificio et magia (sacrifice and miracle). ⑦ Artemidorus: A Greek natural scientist in the second century. ⑧ Greek: "The Interpretation of Dreams". ⑨ Anaxagoras: Greek Ionian philosopher in the fifth century BC. 10 Greek: "On Signs". ① Latin idiom: "No words to answer." ② Latin: "first and second", a game for students. ③ Also the name of the game. ④ Refers to the theological master of Solpon. There was a great crowd, where Domaste was waiting, and Paguguet and Banurge entered the hall, where all the juniors, seniors, and scholars who were candidates for the rector of the university, applauded according to their dull custom.But Pagoda shouted loudly like a heavy cannon: "Calm down, be quiet, hell! Talk to God, you fools, if you keep talking here, I'll cut off your heads." Hearing this sentence, they were all frightened and dumbstruck. Even after eating fifteen catties of chicken feathers, they didn't dare to cough.Pagano's yelling made them all so dry that their tongues stick out half a foot long, as if Pagoda had salted their throats. Then Panurge began to say to the Englishman: "Your Excellency, have you come here to debate the issues you raise, or to learn and understand the truth?" Domaster replied: "Your Excellency, the questions I have raised are all that I have never been able to solve in my life, and no book or person has given me a satisfactory answer, so I have no other reason to come here except to learn and understand. As for debate, I don't want to do it, because it's too boring, let those theological clowns do it, they argue not for the truth, but for contradictions and disputes." "Therefore," said Banurge, "if I, a schoolboy of my master M. Paguecourt, could satisfy and satisfy you on all points and on all points of view, it would be very wrong to trouble my master. It's worth it. Therefore, it is best to let him be the moderator, judge your argument and mine, and if you think I can't satisfy your desire to learn, let him supplement." "It couldn't have been better," Domaster said. "Then please start." Please note that on the crotch of his trousers Panurge has fastened a beautiful pocket with red, white, green, and blue silk tassels, and in it is a very respectable orange. ① Refers to the masters of Sorbonne, there are many adjectives here in the first edition: ? .sophistes, Sorbillans, Sorbonagres, Sorbonigenes, Sorbonicoles, Sorboniformes, Sorbonisecques, Niborcisans, Borsonisans, Saniborsans, (or Sabornisans) are all satirizing Sorbon Masters. ② At that time, men’s trousers did not have pockets, and they were tied on both sides of the crotch. Fruits and coins could be placed there.