Chapter 8 Chapter Eight How the Newcomers Gather Together

"So your Martian is here at last, Davis," said Dr. Herdman. "I have proved to you," Davis replied, "that a new race of humans is emerging. They have convinced me that . . . I did not say they were Martians." "Long, thick hair is part of the story. Anyway, you know—they might be." "Why not another planet?" Keppel said. "Same constellation? Why has Martian become a proper term?" "It doesn't matter what name you use," Davis said disapprovingly. "We're just trying to get to know them better. Why bother with the name? Let's stick to the word Martian."

"The newspapers had no doubts about it. They insisted it was either Martians or nothing." Davis shrugged. "In general, I don't want it to be revealed to the press," Kepar said.He circled his arms on the mahogany table, with a sly expression on his face, "The news can create almost any miracle, it's unbelievable. What does the news do? First, this Sandcropp was popular, Then it's ridiculed by the public. Nothing is more fleeting than popular opinion. What do we have now? Total insensitivity. A couple of prodigious believers running around and half-covering a silly-looking special issue , what other associations are there to show their firm belief in the matter. It is said that there are at least two pro-Martian associations and three anti-Martian associations in London. The guy who publishes the pink cover magazine called "Welcome" see Come to be a major figure. I have heard that there are quite a few associations in America, but they are not very large, and most of them have a tendency towards mysticism, conflating Martians with Tibetans. Thus a new type of delusional insanity has appeared, among these madmen God seems obsolete, they became Martians, and most of them were kings or emperors of Mars. What else is there in your great discovery? We grim bastards, always knew how much stuff there was in it , but was too shrewd to keep silent."

He squinted at Davis out of the corner of his eye. "You really believe that?" Davis asked. Kepar neither admitted nor denied it. "Nobody believes what we really feel in our bones. We can feel it, though we're not quite sure; So why bring it up to invite suspicion and belittle? There is nothing we can do to control what's happening and avoid it. Here they are, that's it." "I want to say something about it," Kepar said, "I have to say it." "I've thought a lot about it, too," said Dr. Herdman Stein. "I don't think about anything but it right now," Davis said.

It seems that Kepar is no less fanatical about the Martians than he is.The grotesquely deformed face was flushed, and every gesture showed extreme excitement.But Kepar's determination to restrain his urges and focus on the facts as much as possible was also evident. Three men came to Keppal's house for dinner to discuss the results of Davis' first investigation. "Let's see how much we gain," Keppal said. "Let's take the conjecture out of the facts that Davies has established. I think that's clearly shown that a A new kind of mind has indeed come to this earth, bringing with it a simpler, clearer and more powerful way of thinking. They have been operating individually everywhere, producing a disorderly innovation in human activity situation. But so far these new types of minds have not yet come together and connected with each other. So far, they have difficulty understanding themselves, let alone each other. They are scattered everywhere. These, I think, seem to be identifiable, is ?"

Mr Davis nodded in agreement. "Until now, we have felt the presence of these new types of humans primarily through material science and mechanical invention. At this stage, they are too dispersed and isolated for an innovative society. The renewal of society requires very extensive cooperation, and the degree of It is quite different. These newcomers are scattered around and do not appear in groups; they do not even know that they are different; it can be said that each person is fixed in the environment in which he was born from birth, and what is presented before him is the established people's perception of the world. They have had to adjust their social behavior to fit the prevailing construct. No doubt many people are completely bewildered by the dogmatism and irrationality of the human routines in which they find themselves. How to put it? They Haven't had a chance yet to dabble in the minutiae of human affairs. But with things like glass sheets, scrap metal, springs, scales, they don't have the same problems, and are free to think almost from the start.

"That was the beginning. No one has tried to explain the rapid advances in scientific knowledge over the past century and a half, but this one does. There have been a great many inventions of precise machinery. It speaks to an inevitable The non-uniformity that disperses the inventions, the drive forward, the revolution in the mechanical sciences, and the relative lag in social understanding. It is almost impossible to make the new point real in the latter field. Together in Together, that becomes a more difficult matter. I think it is easy to explain why this is the case, however, nowadays everyone has reason to use the so-called - in the bishop's words - the contrast between our moral and social ills and material progress . This is a temporary phase."

"But it's terrible," Dr. Herdman Stein said, "as if Superman made the airplane and the apes owned it." "Anyway, it is temporary after all." Kepar continued, still insisting on his point of view, "because, as I said, at first these Martians were extremely rare and scattered, but as their numbers increased—I Think there is no reason not to see it this way—they will necessarily understand each other, come into contact with each other. Such minds, needless to say, will be enthusiastic about scientific work. They will notice and distinguish types of intelligence, which must lead directly to self-discovery. They will discover that they are mutually How similar, how different from ordinary people in the ordinary world. Then they will start to understand who they are."

"A new chapter in history," mused Mr. Davies, "and then?" "Let's think about it," Keppel said. "I believe that it is possible to do a lot of analysis of what is going to happen. I myself think we can already make a rough forecast, but before I give my thoughts to the After listening to both of you, I may be more sure of this. If I get away with it. There are a few very obvious questions that are really worth asking. What will happen to the second phase of the Martian invasion of Earth? Breed among us and I'm sure they'll act out in a certain way as I said. They'll realize what they are, they'll find their own kind, they'll understand each other in their own way. They'll fit into social activities in a certain style .What style is it?"

"But first," he said, "I want to get to the bottom of something that has some practical significance." His eyes were focused on his hands resting on the table. "I would like to ask Davis. Now we have heard him say that a new type of mind is emerging on the planet, a mind that is solid, sober, unchangeable. It has appeared intermittently in indeterminate ways, Very rare. It said 'why not?' and created a lot of things. Now it's obviously increasing in frequency. It's not flocking, but it's coming. So what I want to know is when this new type of mind Is it all when it emerges? Let me make it clear that we acknowledge that the genes that make up human intelligence have been altered in new types of minds. These new types of minds are harder, more sensitive, and more honest in nature. Yes Yes, but are they completely divorced from the old ones, or are they a half-Martian, half-Earth hybrid in many cases?"

"I want to emphasize that hybrid idea. Do they have so much of the earthlings—the old-fashioned common people—and so much of the pure Martian? So they're vain, they're fanciful, they're high on themselves." There is an old-fashioned side, and a side that shines like crystal in the mud. See what I mean? If we talk about Martians as the opposite of humans, that may not be true. The three of us tried to get the relevant information in different ways. The real feel of the race. These new creatures..." Kepar paused for a moment, looking at his hands. "They're going to be very unfortunate creatures, in many cases... What do you say, Davis? What do you think of my hybrid idea?"

"I haven't thought of it that way. You see, I've been looking around for a quick-witted, unruly type, which you suggested, doctor. I did find them. I was looking for a different type. " "Haven't you thought about anything else?" "No, I haven't looked for similarities in different types." He paused, then added, "I've been looking for different humanity, not common humanity." "So," Kepar continued, looking mainly at his very intelligent-looking hands, "this hybrid perspective opens up a whole new field of thinking. It eliminates Sandklepp's nightmare of countless A small monster swarms, multiplies in number, destroys our home and everything that makes up human life, etc. Then we have to imagine an increase in the number of those individuals scattered all over the world, although they seem to have hitherto Haven't doubted that they're human yet, but they're much more confused about life than others. Now, maybe it's different..." "As children, like other children, they begin by accepting the world as they see it, and believing what others tell them. Later, as they grow older, they will find their brains are not on track and they will often They feel that things are not in harmony. At first they will think that the problem is someone else and not themselves. They are not sure whether their parents and teachers will believe what they say. I think that among these Martians, there is a strange thing about The whole world is some kind of deception, and soon it will be another—and certainly many of today’s kids are—is an inevitable common denominator.” "Doubt about the veracity of what they're hearing?" Davis mused. "Of course the kids do. Even I..." Kepar glanced at him quickly. "Now," said Keppel, eyes still on his hands, "before I go on to the question of what the Martians will do with Earth, I want to ask myself and you two some rather pointed questions. You don't mind if I preach, or repeat old things? I was originally a professor, and you must not have forgotten." Dr. Herdman Stein made a gesture of approval, and Davis looked very attentive. "Let us consider this house for a moment as an apartment in the Temple of Truth. To ourselves, we are respected citizens of a well-established social order, well rewarded for our labors. We Knowing how to adjust myself -- very comfortably -- to fit in with life, then I start by asking myself a question and answering it. Do I feel the same about my intelligence now as I did when I was in my twenties? Not the same. Since then Since then, we have washed our brains with a dose of psychoanalytic potion. We are now beginning to recognize this complex system of self-deception in which we live. We wishfully turn a blind eye to shame and repression, and we consciously accept Ayu flatters and exaggerates, subconsciously or semi-consciously avoids and obeys social pressure and evil. We accept all ready-made things, but we forget about thousands of moral issues, public issues, and customary rules Finally, instead of expressing opinions, giving opinions. We will have no thoughts to express. We will even deceive ourselves. Am I exaggerating our contribution to this world?" "I don't see it that way," said Dr. Herdman Stein. "No!" Davis was silent. "We were born and brought up in a social order that now clearly fails in many important respects. The social order is falling apart. Instead of good, it brings deficits and nervous breakdowns. War, all-encompassing and increasing Bestiality, lack of real liberty, economic runaway, material excess masking a huge deficit—am I exaggerating?" "No," sighed Dr. Herdman Stein, "no exaggeration." "Many highly intelligent people seem to believe that we are headed for a world-wide war - what they call the collapse of civilization. Mr Davis, you have charged that that is pure pessimism." "Never mind what I've written," Davis said, "what we're discussing now speaks volumes." "Then I might say, to put it mildly, that the outlook for our world is sinister and depressing." Dr. Hedman Stein put his elbows on the table, "The products of human nature are always sinister to any man of vision." "Especially now, isn't it? Air warfare, germ warfare, the aimless unemployment, the dissolution of social cohesion, the rapid loss of spiritual freedom." "Yes," said Dr. Herdman Stein, "maybe—especially now. The outlook is very bad for something we hold dear." "The general picture is of falling apart, of shedding of great swaths, of decay. The worst thing I have found - and the source of the doom for humanity - is that all the good sane minds on earth are becoming less and less functioning .I don't know if you see it the same way, but what impresses me most about the world today is that violence, mediocrity, and baseness rule everything. It's making everything vulgar, including any new, beautiful things, including any inventions, including our children. Whether it manifests itself in grand revolutionary action or counter-revolutionary acts - all the same in the long run - or through a character - Like Hitler - to embody his own characteristics in him to achieve a happy release. In my opinion, extreme patriotism, group fear, persecution, especially the desire to persecute, are now more obvious, more terrifying, more appalling than in the past .It's a question of your profession, Davis. A question of historical commentary. Anyway, the facts are quite obvious." "We are three lucky people sitting here, we have our footing, we seem to be relatively safe, we have obviously arranged for ourselves. We may not feel as safe in Harley Street as we did twenty-five years ago, but we still feel relatively safe. Safe. We are part of the intellectual world. How much of the world is ours? How far do we dare to leave this room to talk about what is happening in the world today? How dare we go into the depths of our own minds How far—with light, with bold questions? Even you, and I, Hedman Stein, have been, and will continue to be, extremely cautious in the matter of the Martians. We Having to think about our own reputation, we must not be presumptuous, etc. We are very careful even with ourselves. Of current politics, of loud patriotism, of all muddled trite religious fanaticism, of dictatorships, we Has any real opinion been expressed? Though we live in a free country, a free country--we're told--no concentration camps, no trials, no exiles, no martyrs. No visible bondage,-- And yet we are chained. How much intellectual freedom do we have? Indeed, simply because we are too cautious to use it. Do our intellectuals here or elsewhere still have any influence, any voice to attract , divert, or lead to the mass disintegration of what we call the course of history?" "What?" Davis said. "The mass disintegration of what we call the course of history." "Go on," Davis said. "Suppose we went out, in as public a place as possible, and laid out our thoughts about the human condition today?" "I think," said Dr. Herdman Stein, "that people are going to start smashing our windows." He thought for a moment, then added: "The BBC will probably have three archbishops blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah to then your students make trouble in class, your students sitting in the back row . . . Different. My profession gives me a sort of control over one or two noble families." "I've been thinking about it recently." Davis started and stopped.He has a habit of being an undecided writer. "Just now you spoke of stale religion," he went on, "and I agree that many things in life are stale and outdated these days..." He expresses his views carefully. "I think that over the past hundred years the main ideas that hold people together in society have become obsolete. Bizarre new ideas have had an effect, and at least the three of us are beginning to understand that. But since human society is a Objects of constant attention, the ideas that had the main influence have never been replaced. They are added to the new consciousness, and thus become blurred, too extensive, and their influence weakened. It is a very great thing to replace these ideas. Whenever there's a problem to be solved, there's always new blood, a new twist. Old things don't stand the test of time for new purposes. So what do I call it, social ideology, social ideology A heap of old consciousnesses that, through the misuse of terms, can mean anything and nothing. The effects are increasingly uncertain. Have I made it clear, Kepa you?" "You said what I thought, and said it better than I could possibly say myself." "I fully agree," said the doctor. "Go on." Mr Davies pushed the plate away and folded his arms on the table in Keppel's fashion.He speaks carefully and stays on topic.The other two looked at him intently. "You see, there are many practical people. The more they realize the flaws and decay of the ideological system, the more they are delusional, and the more they are afraid of what may happen after this huge system collapses..." After a pause, he added: "That's what I am." "Actually," he went on, "my work has up to this day supported ideas that I think are still relevant. Through my own reasons I began to see, for the first time..." Kepar leaned back and put his hands in his pockets.Clearly he liked what Davis had to say. "We," he said, "are now in the temple of truth. We all find ourselves thinking that the world is floating on a raft of outdated ideas, a raft that is no longer tightly bound together, that once established institutions, customs, Moral codes are a rotting pile that is not much better together than a floating pile of wooden splinters. "We all seem to agree on that. And now these new alien beings, what we call Martians, are aboard this floating system, streaking across the sky like stars with their hard sharp minds and relentless questions. Are they here to save us? Even if they could save us, would we allow it? If not, what would happen to them, what would happen to this spiritual raft?" "A mental raft," Dr. Herdman Steining repeated the indeterminate statement. "A spiritual raft." Keppel looked at his friend, eyes half defensive and half tender, eyes of different sizes. "Isn't it?" he said. "What's wrong with it?" said the doctor. "Don't answer me 'all of it'. Be specific. What's wrong with this raft? What's your evidence, Kepar? I want to know better." "Okay," Kepar said, lifting himself up. "It's only a half-born idea. Yes, yours, mine, everyone's. It's like a very small foal that's only half born and is held back by its membranes and can't break free. It scrambles Bump, half-closed. All our philosophies, the best, are inferior to it. Especially...” "special?" "There is also a second world, which has established its own language and accepts a thousand metaphors. It has another kind of earthly troubles, this world of ghosts and spirits that coexists with the real world. It overlaps with reality, tightly Side by side, similar but not identical: a parody of fantasies; a vague repetition; a world overflowing with imagination, the consequences of common tendencies. We see a ghost around everyone, and it's not real There we imagine that there is a greatest ghost beside the universe. Whenever the intellect works a little hard, whenever our bright eyes feel the light of truth, we lose focus and slide into the nether world. The nether world is the gateway to The inevitable path to the dreamland of the deprived of reason. In the nether world, the world of ghosts, you can find endless explanations, endless reasons for your impulses. This is my charge against human intelligence; this ever-bewildering Dualism. The ultimate fruit of human intellect is a simple and complete view of life." ("That boy from Goebbels," Davis thought.) "But we get it more directly now," said the doctor. "What we got was new influences coming in," Davis said. "Not only that," Keppel said, dismissing the new influences, "the stupid creature has many other problems." "It's human." The doctor whispered. "Let's hear what it's all about." "The creature hardly ever grows to a man. Almost none of us are fully developed. We are especially afraid of taking on the full responsibility of being human, which is what manhood means. Men are boys who do not grow up, but are still big and clumsy, a A walking monster, a Mussolini, Europe's bouncing boy. Most people at the end of their lives are always begged for protection and guidance to posterity, and out of that plea all devotion to God , emperors, leaders, heroes, superiors, and mystical personifications like the people, the fatherland, the church, the party, the masses, the proletariat, etc. We accept almost all self-abasements, and do not want to stand out from the crowd and become full-fledged individuals. Like All cubs, bugs, we too are full of fear. What is guilt? It's nothing but the instinctive fear of immature animals. Ah, we're doing something wrong! We'll be punished for it! We're full of primordial curses and mysteries The fear of guilt, full of masochistic urges to sacrifice, to atone, to kneel, to prostrate. It numbs our pursuit of happiness and fills the world with vile, cruel, and insane actions. If there are times when we are not quite naive, it is at most in adolescence.The extreme individualism we all have!It is not surprising to say that people are like a group of monkeys in a cage, but sex is just a manifestation of extreme individualism.Man is wildly self-centered everywhere—more than biologically necessary.No other animal, not even a dog, has such a strong sense of self and bitter jealousy.Fear is connected to this - there are no clear boundaries - and so is hidden energy.The love of wealth is born of fear.This terrified, immature thing longs for safety, absolute safety.Thus, through the most natural transformation, fear develops into a desire to possess wealth and power.It is one step from evasive defense to aggressive defense.He not only fears others, but hates them and curses them.Fight needlessly.He is ruthless and cruel, keen to conquer and persecute.People!What did Swift say?How can such a guy be mentioned with honor! " "Human, is it?" said the doctor, "but listen, Keppel. How bad is he? Just a terrified, defensive, childish beast squinting at the world, because he Haven't learned to look straight? So hopeless? You experimental psychologists have cleared our minds of human beings very quickly over the last thirty or forty years. Very fast. You've been doing this destructive — Well, good — analysis of our motives and our mistakes, our bizarre behaviour. Yes... you wouldn't have said that forty years ago. In our line of business we say that the correct diagnosis is the successful treatment Half. Defining the human mind is like sending a patient to bed for therapy. Maybe that's where the therapy begins." "Really?" Kepar said. "Isn't now the ripe time to start a new education? A new education that brightens a man's eyes and straightens his back, teaches him to think straight and grow, and finally makes him a man." Davis shook his head, saying to himself rather than others: "That's what people are. Human nature is human nature. Souls are born, not made." "In speculating about these new humans," said Keppel, "we have to remember one thing. Stubborn sober minds do not mean what we call obstinate. What we call obstinate are fools, Be at a loss in the face of problems, but the stubborn sober mind is crystal clear; it is like a rotating lens, reflecting all aspects of things, various possibilities, and inevitable correlations between things. But anyway, let's give full play to our imagination Let's imagine how this alien intelligent life will act. What will they say, what will they ask, what will they point out. How will people react to that?" "I don't like it, of course," said the doctor. "First, I think, they'll be met with hostile indifference. They'll be said to be ineffective and ineffective. They'll rise up against the Fool, the Earthman, whether in person or as a mob or leader. But The new humans will be unbiased. So where the hell do they stand, as the saying goes? They won't be on either side of the stupid war scene, the New Thirty Years War, massacres, revenge, etc. For redness, against Red, we're always vacillating. They're not." "Then they'll have time to meet," said Dr. Herdman Stein. "Maybe it won't be too long. People will realize that there is some inherent power in the nondescript things they say and the unbiased advice they make. The advice they offer is constructive and not competitive. The next step , especially when the leaders of stupid human beings prevail, reputation and ability will be linked to government interests, and they will be required to show themselves as supporters or opponents. If they refuse to attach, they will definitely refuse to attach , will be accused of being destructive, disaffected rebels. Being sober and not following the crowd, they will face a lot of hardship and will be hated alike from the left and the right.” "Then," asked Dr. Herdman Stein, "how is it possible that they have any control over the world?" "How do sane people control the world?" "Yes. If you think it's the same problem." "I'm not a seer," says Keppel, "I'm just looking at the possibilities. Wouldn't it happen if more conscious, intelligent beings kept coming into our world? All these intelligent beings Wouldn't they be faced with the same world, with the same problems? Without any political or religious organization, wouldn't they have the same views on these problems—the same things would have the same value in their eyes? Although their There is no need to negotiate. I insist that the normal human brain has only one intelligence, not many. If it is what Davis thinks, one of the characteristics of this new brain is the perception of the masses, foolish loyalty, instinct Prejudice and rhetoric, then, without any political organization or party or movement or that sort of thing, wouldn't these determined beings, at their own will, refuse to do the savage, terrible, and stupid, and start doing meaningful things? "Assume that they are talented and confident people who can do various things. Then the important positions in many fields of science, medicine, machinery and management in this world are likely to fall on them. With the increase of their number Increased, pervasive, their way of thinking and acting is likely to affect subordinates with whom they are concerned. Yes, you have mentioned, Doctor, that even ordinary people can be Martianized by wiser education ... "Well, suppose you find a pilot in a bomber who happens to be asking himself: 'For blood and brains, why am I doing this cruel, stupid job? Why don't I turn around and drop this thing at command On the heads of those murderers?' Then, without any further hesitation, he did as he thought. When he landed on the ground, assuming that there were one or two people on the ground who agreed with his actions, without any dissatisfaction, in fact Stand aside, so what? Even the gladiators of ancient Rome had the wisdom to defy. The new warriors of the air we train with these qualities may have the Christian name of Spartacus. "Suppose also that a skilled workman is doing delicate work on a cannon, and he is well aware that it would be better for the world if the cannon did not fire. Will it then? Or is this a dynamite maker? Chemists. Things like this are sure to become a problem as the population of Mars multiplies. Your yelling demagogues or rant rulers are sick and need surgery, and here's a patriot quack who does whatever Both will make a mess of the patient; there is a calm, confident, but not calculating, knowledgeable, syringe, and scalpel man, he may kill the patient, or heal the patient. But why should he heal? "The ruler looks at him with those powerful eyes whenever his condition permits. The Martian takes it very seriously. From his point of view, he will never exaggerate. He will say, Your world is against me world, so he does what he thinks is best for the world without revealing his intentions. Experts will have power, if they have enough insight. They need to take a small step forward in this .” "But it's—sabotage!" said Dr. Herdman Stein. "The only rational answer to irrational impulse is destruction." "You imply assassination." "I didn't imply anything. What I said clearly was assassination - if shooting at a mad dog or a stray elephant is an assassination. Assassination is a legal assertion of personal dignity in front of a dictatorship. It's not just a right, it's an obligation, A sacred duty. A dictator is a lawbreaker, he disenfranchises himself. His presence degrades you, he imposes ugly actions on you. He can commandeer you and make you choose between evil. Kill He is certainly better than letting him make you kill other people directly or indirectly. If you are strong enough, you can say to him: 'You are a bastard'; if that will stop his evil, you can also be lenient to him point; but if you are not strong enough, you must kill him. What else can you do? Be a law-abiding man?" "Terrible," said the doctor. "It's just common sense." "Martians can't be killed-if that's their fate." "They were killed for a good purpose," Davis said. "Killing them won't do the old order any good either," said Keppel. "There will always be more level-headed gentlemen who believe in cosmic rays as they do now, in the eternal wisdom deep within our heads. In fools The world of sane people struggles, but they can cheer up the world of stupid people, even if they don't expect to change it. One sane man will follow another; one sane man will become clearer and clearer Know the other. They will stand shoulder to shoulder, no matter how bad the law is or how stupid the authorities are." "A revolution without even a revolutionary organization?" "Not a revolution, better than a revolution. A revolution is nothing but a transformation of society. A revolution cannot fundamentally change anything. What exactly is a revolution? A growing imbalance of classes and groups, a shifting center, an overturning of the raft, unlike the old things The other side of the world becomes master. That’s all there is to a revolution. I’m not talking about a revolution, but a new way of behaving, the dawn breaks.” "Enlightenment." Davis tried a word. “是谁就要来临？”凯帕尔突然加重语气道，“是火星人还是非火星人……？” “不过，亲爱的凯帕尔，”大夫说，“你说的不正是无政府主义吗？” “我想，是无政府主义。它有可能意味着'回到混沌'，所有从个人动机个人追求里释放出来的清醒头脑朝一个方向得出同样的结论。人的大脑同火星人的一样。有理性的头脑不会像人们装的那样持那么多不同见解。他们必须遵守绝对的法律。我们有误解，我们并不停下来去了解它。我们让自己接触生活。世界上每一个统治者都生活在不断与简单知识和讨论争斗中。我们则生活在——让我们面对事实——一个挤满了躲避知识，惟恐头脑清醒的病人的疯人院里。” 他停住口，将雪茄烟盒朝客人面前推了推。 “一个变得头脑清楚的世界。”戴维斯说。 “星球心理疗法，”大夫说，“一个清楚明白的世界，我的大师——一那么以后呢？”