Chapter 24 The Chinese I admire the most

Liang: ...Character, a person's character and temper are innate, and the innate aspect is more important. Suppose a person has his innate side and his acquired side. Comparing the two sides, innate is more important. His character, temper, Cleverness and wisdom are all innate aspects. Ai: Then I made a mistake, an inappropriate mistake, because I understand that your first wife died when she was in Shandong, and your friends feel that your relationship with her is not as close as that of your second wife.Anyway I got it wrong. Liang: Let me add one more thing (laughs). It is my second wife. Didn’t she graduate from a university and a graduate from the Department of Education?When she married me, I was 50 years old, she was 3 years younger than me, she was 47, too old.

Ai: I made a mistake about this too.I thought you were 10 years older than her, but it's just... Liang: I'm three years older than her. It's not too early for a woman to get married at 30, and it's too late to get married at 40, and it's too late to get married at 47 (laughs).Anyone who is such a late-married person, she has a strong personality. Ai: Yes, I am used to living alone. Liang: The personality is very strong, and the result is easy... (laughs) Ai: I just reversed this.The newspaper about you said that she was 10 years younger than you, and I wrote it according to the newspaper of that year.

Liang: Isn't she too old? 47, too big, she concealed her age. Ai: Yes, I don't even know about this. Liang: She concealed her age (laughs), she concealed it herself, and also concealed her friend's introduction, that's how it is. Ai: Oh. Liang: In fact, she is very old. Ai: This is very interesting. What I said about your friend’s impression and the impression in the newspapers back then are exactly the opposite of the actual situation. Liang: That's right. Ai: Very interesting phenomenon.Now I think, in China, where can I find information and interview many people, or... I just remembered that Mr. Hu Yinghan told me that after the end of the Anti-Japanese War, one day, he was in Beiping, and he told you and your wife together, then...

Liang: That's the second one. Ai: Yes, it is with the second one.The question is about women. Mr. Hu said that you put forward a theory that women are not creators, but creators.And your wife lost her temper and said, how can you say that?Mr. Hu said you just laughed out loud, is there such a thing? (laughs) You might not remember such a small thing. (Liang: Yes.) Do you have any insight on the women's liberation movement in the West? Liang: I didn't say it last time. I have a foreign friend. He is called Wei Zhong and Wei Xiqin. He talks deeply about the differences between men and women.That’s what you just mentioned, you said it.Naturally, that is to say, it is God. One of the missions or missions given to women by God is to have children. The main thing is that in a woman's life, it is the middle stage-the stage where children can be born, too early is not counted. , it's too late or too old.She is not a very woman-like woman when she is too early, and she is not a woman-like woman when she is too old. It is the middle stage where she is a real woman. The responsibilities and tasks God gave her at this stage are life. child.Her task is with the body, not the mind.Men's tasks are in the mind, so it is right to do things according to nature, that is, to do things naturally. It is not good to do things not according to nature and forcefully.So he—Wei Xiqin, talking about being a scholar, or even being a politician or a military strategist (laughs) is not appropriate.But maybe it’s okay to be an artist, this is his opinion.I agree with him very much.It seems that there used to be a famous philosopher, a German. It seems that he said——Schopenhauer. (Ai: Yes.) He said, what is a woman?What is a woman?A woman is a big child, a child, but not very young (laughs), she is a big child.It's easy for women to get together. For example, in a large meeting place, women will gather together and talk to each other. Naturally, there will be groups of men, but many will be scattered.If you go to a large meeting place and take a look, there is such a situation.The women sit together in a pile, talking, talking very happily. There is a situation, according to Beijing dialect, they are not as calm as men, and a little floating.This is to say that women have different personalities from men. The important thing is that as I said just now, it seems that the task given to men by nature and God is to create, whether it is academic creation, political creation, or even military creation. , are all created, and this kind of creation should be attributed to men. Don't count on women for this kind of creation, because women have her tasks, she has her mission, the mission given to her by God.I agree with Wei Xiqin's words and admit it very much.

Ai: In the 1920s, you talked about this issue with Mr. Wei. Has your idea not changed? Liang: The view on the distinction between men and women is still the same. Ai: I don’t know, maybe you don’t know that the United States, especially the United States, and Europe also have women’s liberation, which requires equal rights between men and women. Even now in the United States, women have preferential treatment no matter what they do. When looking for work, women have preferential treatment. Discussing that women are already in the army, but what we are debating is, should they be soldiers? ... Even some women's liberation movements are more intense, saying that we women should not associate with men at all, do not marry them, do not have sexual relations with them, and we women should be with women. It sounds, especially in China Man, it's weird.First, have you heard about the American Women's Liberation Movement?Second, what is your reaction and opinion on this?

Liang: I agree with that foreign friend Wei Xiqin just now.That friend said something like this: foreigners, especially Westerners, foreign women are like men, and Chinese men are like women (laughs). Ai: (laughs) Do you think this makes sense? Liang: This is the fact, in fact.right?I think that's somewhat true.Foreign women are a bit like men, and it seems that she has not only become like a man, but also strives to be a man. Ai: Is your second wife considered a women's liberation movement? Liang: Didn't she get married very late?She has been a teacher in middle schools, normal schools, and middle schools for decades.She has a strong personality, but conflicts with others are inevitable.Just a coincidence, it wasn't August 1966, there was the Cultural Revolution Movement?She was beaten very badly.

Ai: Who is the Chinese person you admire the most, no matter in the past or in the present? Liang: I admired Zhang Shizhao very early, even when I was young. His name is Mr. Zhang Xingyan.His pseudonym for writing articles is sometimes Qiutong—"Autumn" for autumn, "Tong" for Wutong.When I was young, I was studying in middle school. I graduated from 14 to 19 years old, 14, 5, 6, 7, 8. At this time, I saw Mr. Zhang Xingyan——Zhang Shizhao—his articles. I didn’t know him. I don't know the name, but I saw his pen name is Qiutong.One of the articles he wrote was the European Correspondence. He was in Europe and wrote to newspapers, calling the situation in Europe the European Correspondence and the Remaining Europe Correspondence. I found it very interesting.In particular, he has some articles on the political system, because at that time China had to learn from foreign countries and learn from foreign countries in politics, so there was the issue of opening a parliament, and there was a parliament.There is a problem with the House of Representatives, is it still a bicameral system or a unicameral system?The relationship between the House of Representatives and the government, like in the United Kingdom, the government is responsible to Congress, the House of Representatives, the responsible cabinet, and the party cabinet.He wrote an article discussing this issue, which I am very interested in.Because at that time we were all enthusiastic about China’s political transformation, and what we admired and felt the most was British-style politics. He happened to be introducing and discussing this thing. OK?Is there a need for two chambers?I love to read all these articles by him, but I don't know who he is, so I only leave a pseudonym.This was when I was young, only a teenager, and when I was studying in Beijing Middle School, I read newspapers and articles and saw this, and I admired this person, and appreciated his arguments and articles.

Later, I saw that there was a newspaper in Shanghai called "Minli Daily", and most of the articles published in "Minli Daily" were about politics, so the pseudonym of this article was "Xing Yan".I still don't know what his surname is, but when I saw Xing Yan's article, I thought that this person's article might be the same person as Qiu Tong. I don't know his real name, so I judged that he might be the same person.Later, Liang Qichao and Liang Rengong published a publication called "Guofeng Bao" in Japan. "Guofeng Bao" published an article by chance. Most of the "Guofeng Bao" was about politics. An article was published by chance. The question is, what kind of translation is considered a good translation.Because in the past, Mr. Yan Fu, Mr. Yan Jidao discussed the issue of name translation. He has three standards: one is to believe—the "faithfulness" of words and words, one word next to a single person; the other standard is faith, and One is expressive, and the third is more elegant and elegant.Mr. Yan pays attention to this when he talks about translation. He must abide by these three standards when translating foreign things, so the foreign things he translates are all in classical Chinese, very elegant, without vernacular.This problem is called the problem of name translation and the problem of translating nouns.I saw an article in the "Guofeng Bao" discussing the translation of names and translation issues. Coincidentally, the name and pen name used for this "name and quality" are neither Qiutong nor Xingyan, but a very fresh word "name and quality", but I see that these three names are really the same. People, my judgment is like this, and it turned out to be a person.

At this time, he published a publication called "Jia Yin" in Japan. At this time, I corresponded with him. From the correspondence, I knew that his name was Zhang Shizhao.Later when I came to Beijing, I liked to get close to him very much and admired him very much.But after admiring him, I was disappointed again. How could I be disappointed?Because of Mr. Zhang, he is much older than me. He is a very talented person. He has many talents. He has many desires, so his life is very rotten—eating opium, gambling, and gambling. , whoring, marrying a concubine, marrying a concubine, one, two, three, I am very disappointed, I don't like it very much.Although I didn't like it very much, I still kept in touch with him until he was 90 years old.

Ai: He died in Hong Kong in 1973. Liang: By the way, 93 years old. Ai: You see, this is not bad. Although his life is like this, he still lived to be 93 years old (laughs), and it didn't seem to affect his body. Liang: It seems like that. Ai: As for others, what you admire is... Liang: This is what I admired when I was young.Another one I admire is Zhang Binglin, Mr. Zhang Taiyan.I think his knowledge is good.He is also...